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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Dracon" data-source="post: 3193169" data-attributes="member: 14799">I can't challenge your view about the ASPH Leica Zoom because I haven't seen one. If I did, I probably would accept what you have said.  I try to keep both an open mind and eye.  In my opinion statement on powers above 30, I should have qualified that by saying, "On some unusual days, when humidity is low, wind not blowing, no smoke or dust in the air, etc., etc., higher powers than 30 may be useful."   Today was one of those days, and I put the XW 10 in the 80 mm (51 X power) Pentax, and it magnified nicely.  But this does not happen frequently in Montana. As you have identified yourself as an "astro type", I consider myself a "Terra type," and primarily a bird and animal watcher, and since the mission of Bird Forum is terrestrial, not celestial, I don't frequent Cloudy Nights.Is the Leica zoom interchangeable with the Pentax, or is it brand specific? Also, your mentioning about the Leica being "friendlier for daytime use than are the Pentax XWs" puzzles me.  The Pentax Zoom I find somewhat unfriendly, but the XW 20, 14, and 10 has 20 mm eye relief.  I wear glasses and have no problem whatsoever getting the full field with those. John</blockquote>