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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steve C" data-source="post: 1316180" data-attributes="member: 56622">What the final US price is I really don't know.  That is simply a price level I've seen posted at a couple of other forums.  I really don't think anybody really knows.  Now that I think about it, $3k is probably likely, but I don't know.  I do happen to think that the asking price for the new glass may be hitting the critical point.  Using myself as an example, if I thought the alphas were really enough better, I'd work to squirrel away maybe $2k.  With the price $3-4k, no way.  I really don't know where to put the Promaster/Hawke quite frankly.  They are optically better than a Big Mac Value Meal but they certainly don't have the pizzaz to command a 7 course Gourmet Meal price either.  Kind of like the Steakhouse Burger Meal vs the Big Mac. So I suppose I have them in the upper levels of the mid price quality.  After all that is where they are priced.  This glass would probably have fared better coming from an established brand, say if it were the Vortex Razor II.  Who else will re brand it? Or is it an exclusive contract with Promaster/Hawke?  Can Promaster/Hawke command enough pizzaz to move enough of these to make a difference?Actually I can't disagree with much of your post.</blockquote>