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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OwenM" data-source="post: 1316209" data-attributes="member: 63408">I agree. Funny about the Razor II part. Since I first read about the Promaster and Hawke ED, I've thought that in some ways these were what the Razor could, and probably should, have been. The problems I had with that bin were, here it comes...the construction quality shortcomings of the eyecup and diopter adjustments. Had the Razor had the same features as these, I would have had no reason to return either the original, or its replacement. Now, there is little reason to buy a Razor for $750. At the same time, these $500 models have the slow focus, lack an established brand name, and well, "clunker" appearance(let's face it, they're ugly), that make them less appealing.Someone said these are a hint of what tomorrow's standard mid-priced bins may offer, and that's probably true. Much like the R&D that went into say, a Swarovski EL, the initial efforts(that we will never see in the case of a company like Swarovski-and you absorb the cost when you buy one) may leave some things to be desired, but they're necessary steps toward a future product.</blockquote>