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Message: <blockquote data-quote="oleaf" data-source="post: 1316858" data-attributes="member: 52491">Guys... do you have first hand experience with any OEM / ODM?  You seem to know a lot about this.  Let me give you an example about OEM / ODM.  First hand.I work for a German company that makes a product for the bicycle industry. We are the ODM.  Complete design.  World patent in a category.  Agreement with Taiwan OEM.First trade show all is good.  Second trade show the following year... not so good.  Find a sample at a competitors booth that looks surprisingly like our product.  Hmmm. Could they knock us off in the course of a year?  Sure.  Trade show rep comes over to tell me about their great new product... really.Closer inspection.  Exact knock off.  Closer inspection... I even see our micro productcode numbers molded in the product!  Our OEM didn't even bother to take those out of the mold when they "slipped" the design out to our competitor!What to do?  Talk to the company president.  "well, our company is so big one of our designers didn't know you have a patent and gave the design out"  Yeah... sure.But... in the end you have to work it out and pretend you didn't get screwed by your OEM, and that in reality, you need them to keep producing your product so you kiss and make up and have them tell the competitor they can't use "your" design anymore.  And act like they did you a favor for it.  No this doesn't happen to everyone.  But I have some experience since I work with ODM / OEM and am part of the process.  Not just guessing about it.So Kevin... give me a good bed time story of your experience as an ODM and your experience with an Asian OEM <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />I was just trying to give an idea of how the process works.  Don't mean to come off as a jerk.You know much more than I do about this subject so I'll bow out.Cheers</blockquote>

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