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How to solve the twisted straps issue with Field Pro lugs once for all (2 Viewers)

cnee

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I know this has been an nagging issue for many ever since the Field Pro was introduced by Swarovski. I came up with this a couple of years ago since I bought a pair EL. Because the FP have been out for many years, I thought people would have already had good solutions for this issue. But lately I came across some posts which seems to me some are still being bother by this with no good solution. Here's how I solved it once and for all. With a little swivel device made for key rings in line, I can use any kind of straps system without ever getting them twisted up again. Note that I use 2 split rings per swivel but it's really not necessary, one would be strong enough. You can find all these little things on Amazon.

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Why not directly connect the peak design connectors (or whatever they call them) to the binocular lug? The metal thingies seem unnecessary.
 
Because the strap can get twisted as the Fieldpro strap adapter spins around. Which is the issue the metal thingies are supposedly able to solve.
Exactly. I find the FP straps uncomfortable so I don't use them. My entire system of birding equipments (cameras and binos) are using the Peak Design so that's what I preferred to use. They end up get twisted like hell if I didn't have the swivels in line.
 
When I first saw this thread, my first reaction was "Simple, just don't buy any binoculars with this abominable system" ... :cool: That's just what I did after I bought one binocular with the FP system: I decided I didn't like it at all, and I didn't want it. So no more Swaros with the FP system for me. Problem solved. There are plenty excellent binoculars with the tried and true attachment system.

Anyway, I digress. I also use the Peak Design anchors, but not for my binoculars. I find the anchors don't work very well with the rainguards I prefer, and rainguards are pretty important to me. How do you use the anchors with rainguards like the good old Zeiss rainguards?

Hermann
 
For an alternative point of view on the often here maligned Fieldpro fastening system please go here:

8x32 NL Pures vs SF 8x32.

My #9 there explains a simple way of dealing.

As well theres a link within that, to another earlier post:

Nl pure

See #12 and down a few.

I get theres a lot of unhappiness here, taken it seems to an extreme as the reason not to buy an EL or NL. In my experience this is a bit of baby and bathwater. Really? Folks would deny themselves and others coming here for advice, the chance to enjoy some of arguably the best optics ever and that sweet NL ergo package do to a strap system thats well... just different??

I recently could not ignore the deal on a Conquest HD 8x32. Its a sweet binocular, especially at the discounted price. It has the conventional strap and lug system folks here seem to prefer. As sweet as this bino is, and as happy as I am I bought it, and I have used it a bunch out and about, I must confess Ive had more issues with tangled straps on it than any/both of my Swaros.

Many here are bino collectors. How much they go use a bino is not made clear. Surely most are birders, but birders how? Rarely is it said. I get if light birding is all you do and FP represents change from one's norm, theres a learning curve that if ignored makes for ongoing unhappiness. A few of us admit to being hunters. Imagine you bird, you hunt, you go on adventure travel trips to exotic places for all kinds of critters. You can switch from the included strap, to a harness, (like the RYO), to a chest pouch in seconds with Field pro. How is this not a plus?

We know from Jans latest and comments from others, that Swaro dominates the top end of the market. one has to wonder how this could be if Fieldpro fasteners are such an issue?

Re storage, putting away and taking out, the system I explain above in those two threads is dead easy. It keeps FP from getting twisted. It requires a wee bit of change, rethinking the thing. So though I am discovering my new Conquest straps require me to change.
 
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I do think that skeping swarovski great binos due to the FIELD PRO system is an absolute nonsense.....but hey, everyone has an opinion.
Myself no issue with the field pro AT ALL.

Really do not see the point on those swivel rings.
peak design once you attach both sides the bino won't twist. Once both attached...there is no need for the swivel rings.
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Might’ve missed this one in those. trying to get to that old post hike vid with me getting out of RYO and wrapping to avoid twisting swivels:

 
I get theres a lot of unhappiness here, taken it seems to an extreme as the reason not to buy an EL or NL. In my experience this is a bit of baby and bathwater. Really? Folks would deny themselves and others coming here for advice, the chance to enjoy some of arguably the best optics ever and that sweet NL ergo package do to a strap system thats well... just different??
So what? I think the FP system is a nuisance. That's what I said. And whether the NLs are "arguably some of the best optics ever" and a "sweet NL ergo package" doesn't come into this.
Surely most are birders, but birders how? Rarely is it said. I get if light birding is all you do and FP represents change from one's norm, theres a learning curve that if ignored makes for ongoing unhappiness.
I'm certainly not a "light birder". I still think the FP system is a nuisance. So your point is?
Imagine you bird, you hunt, you go on adventure travel trips to exotic places for all kinds of critters. You can switch from the included strap, to a harness, (like the RYO), to a chest pouch in seconds with Field pro. How is this not a plus?
I don't change the carry system once I decided what works best for me for one particular binocular. It's either a strap or a harness. End of story. And if I wanted to change regularly I'd simply use the Peak Design system.
We know from Jans latest and comments from others, that Swaro dominates the top end of the market. one has to wonder how this could be if Fieldpro fasteners are such an issue?
I don't care if Swarovski "dominates the top end of the market". I don't care if people actually like the Field Pro system or not. I don't like it. End of story.

Hermann
 
Anyway, I digress. I also use the Peak Design anchors, but not for my binoculars. I find the anchors don't work very well with the rainguards I prefer, and rainguards are pretty important to me. How do you use the anchors with rainguards like the good old Zeiss rainguards?
Hermann, in case this is of any help...

I also use Peak Design anchors with my binoculars, I really like the fact that you can quickly change from using the strap to having the binoculars on their own (like for using them at home or while in the car where the strap is always in the middle), or else also the possibility to attaching them to my "backpack rig". It takes a second and it's so convenient.

But then I also like using my preferred rainguard, which many times is not the one that came originally with the binoculars. This happens to my with my most used binos: Canon IS III 12x36, Opticron Traveller ED 8x32, Swarovski EL SV 8x32. In all three cases I use third party rainguards. For the Canon I use the ones that came with a Zeiss Conquest HD (in the image, for me they're a good match to the oversized eyecups or the Canon and they come off easily), and for the Traveller and EL SV I use the ones that came with a Zeiss FL or else the ones that came with a Vortex Viper HD, which are actually quite similar in size, shape, material and "feel".

Additionally, because I also like the possibility of taking the rainguard on and off quickly, I use a small quick connector that comes with some Zeiss binoculars (pictured below "undone"). First I started attaching it to the strap metal loop of the binocular, but now I simply attach it to the strap and I like it more this way. Have a look. I can click it off and keep the rainguard in my pocket if I know I won't be using it for a while. Or if I'm actively using the rainguard, it comes on and off quickly and neatly.

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Yes, as you can see I'm using an old Swarovski strap because I like the fact that you can go from "neck" use to "bandolier" style (across the chest) with the flick of a lever, it's quite a clever design. So in all cases I go for versatility and quick and convenient ease of use (anchor for freeing the binos from the strap, connector for the rain guard, strap that is really fast to tighten/loosen). I talked about it all (plus the backpack rig) here.

I hope this helps :)

*For the sake of statistics, I also dislike the FP system strongly. I also find is an over-engineered solution to a non-existing problem. Before I sold my 8x32 EL SV we had at home at the same time two 8x32 EL SV. Mine, a pre-FP and my partner's 2020 FP model. In my case, I personally can't find a single reason to like the FP system. As a matter of fact, I find I have more problems with twisting strap with the FP than with the pre-FP... come to think about it, I've never had any strap-twisting issue with the pre-FP ELSV, or with any other binocular for that matter. After thinking about it for a while, my take is that Swarovski (just like car manufacturers) feels they need to "add new features" to make their designs more up-to-date and desirable, which in my personal opinion is a really poor choice that makes for very poor design choices. Again, this is just an opinion :)
 
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For the sake of statistics, I also dislike the FP system strongly. I also find is an over-engineered solution to a non-existing problem.

One other solution could be to glue the strap adapter to the FP pin, such that it becomes a fixed strap mount. Haven't given it a try.. yet
 
While agreeing that the Field Pro setup is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, I have to admit I've never really had issues with the strap attachment cords twisting (nor the attachment devices unexpectedly releasing, though I don't doubt that others have). Maybe it's something in the way I handle them, or maybe I've just been lucky, Oddly enough I seem to get more twist with the SLC 10x56, which has the usual attachment lugs. I put this down to the webbing material that connects the strap to the binocular being a bit too thin.

IIRC you have the option to install standard lugs instead of the FP thingys, and if that's the case I certainly would do that.
 
Always nice to meet a polite and friendly person on this forum.

Hermann
I do believe we ALL SHOULD BE POLITE. We all have different opinions and we might not agree but sometimes reading some threats, you can see the hate toward few members. Which is COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.
I really like this forum. birding is a new hobby for me and overall I learn from people that know much more that I do and I exchange opinions. What else can I ask for? :ROFLMAO: ...... well....politeness.
Claves_10 for president. TRUMP vs HARRIS vs CLAVES_10.
 
IIRC you have the option to install standard lugs instead of the FP thingys, and if that's the case I certainly would do that.

Still twists though, as the strap adapter still spins freely and allows the strap to twist up. Have to untwist my standard strap from time to time.
 

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