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Hybrid baikal teal ? at Top Hill Low , Yorkshire last weekend. (1 Viewer)

markm

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England
Any ideas which cross?
No need to apologise about photo I know its rubbish.
 

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another dodgy duck now! if this baikal teal is going from somerset to east yorkshire and breeding what hope have we got! canvasbacks love essex,fudge ducks love the midlands ...........yes it got baikal teal in it
 
 
For info there was a very similar looking bird at a couple of sites in West Yorkshire in May last year that was concluded to be a Wigeon x Shoveler hybrid.
 
I am not sure on this one, andwould like to see more photos.

i agree there is some resemblance to wigeon x shoveler in this bird , but also to wigeon x pintail... however, baikal teal head pattern is thrown up by a number of hybrid combinations...

I think I am going to be careful with tis one until there are more pictures
 
Why not Eurasian Wigeon x Northern Pintail?
One point here is: because the breast is too dark. it is slightly darker than flanks. that shouldn´t be the case in the cross involving pintail. it also excludes baikal teal x Northern pintail . also scapulars differ slightly in both these crosses , I think
 
More photos as requested. Sorry about the delay.
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thank you Mark,

one parent appears to be Northern Shoveler, from the way how the reddish brown of the breast is bleeding into the flanks. The reddish flank of northern shoveler is often shifted towards the breast and getting darker in many dabbling duck hybrids where the second parent has anotherr flank color, but there is often a reddish brown hue remaining to the flanks.
The hue on the flanks can vary in strenghth

Noshov x Eurowigeon:

Noshov x Eurasian Teal

Noshov x Gadwall

Noshov x Mallard

i am still checking the other parent
will come back to this
Jörn
 
Well, I can not safely exclude the already mentioned combination Eurasian Wigeon x Northern shoveler- this could well be it, though there are some things a bit odd,

therefore I am still wondering if something else , like Baikal Teal ,could be involved. I would really like to see a closeup of the scapulars to clarify .....
 
Well, I can not safely exclude the already mentioned combination Eurasian Wigeon x Northern shoveler- this could well be it, though there are some things a bit odd,

therefore I am still wondering if something else , like Baikal Teal ,could be involved. I would really like to see a closeup of the scapulars to clarify .....
I couldnt see it yesterday and duck numbers are peaking due to freezing weather. It was about between Christmas and new year but I couldnt really add anything as it was a good distance out on D reservoir.
 
I couldnt see it yesterday and duck numbers are peaking due to freezing weather. It was about between Christmas and new year but I couldnt really add anything as it was a good distance out on D reservoir.
well thats the joy and despair of birding - thanks for trying !!!
 

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