One thing I have heard often here in NZ is that Swarovski's customer service is better than all the other alpha brands available here.I did the same comparison for a few days. Both are great bins, but the SFs clearly won for me - largely due to fit and feel in the hand, ergonomics, armor stiction, and focuser feel. Optically - both are top shelf. I now have both 8x32 SF and 10x32 SF. Fantastic bins - I would be quite content for either 8x32SF or 10x32SF to serve as my one-and-only pair of binoculars.
I have both the NL 8x32 and the SF 8x32 and it happens to be raining so I tried. I did not noticed any difference.Does this mean that the NL top of the range binocular now no longer sheds rain etc from the lenses like its competitors?
Try them both for lens fogging.I have both the NL 8x32 and the SF 8x32 and it happens to be raining so I tried. I did not noticed any difference.
Maybe you can see one in different circumstances, if you spend the entire day in a tropical forest under heavy rain but because of Covid, it is harder for me to test unfortunately
Well that is interesting; perhaps they have used some other coating instead?I have both the NL 8x32 and the SF 8x32 and it happens to be raining so I tried. I did not noticed any difference.
Maybe you can see one in different circumstances, if you spend the entire day in a tropical forest under heavy rain but because of Covid, it is harder for me to test unfortunately
Jan, I do blame the brand, and their training of their staff.Hi S,
It is all about people. They MAKE the brand.
Down here the Zeiss rep would give the dealer a loaner for two weeks free of charge. As will Leica and Swarovski. It's the brands rep (Homo Sapiens) who makes the difference and we can't blame the brand.
Jan
Hi S,Jan, I do blame the brand, and their training of their staff.
The brand IS the people.
hi JanHi S,
For example, the "Try Before You Buy" is a worldwide Zeiss concept which gives the dealer the opportunity to get Zeiss bins for free for a year and after that against discount. The idea behind it is to give potential customers the opportunity to try any Zeiss bin without risks for the dealer. So who to blame most in this matter. The brand or the dealer?
Jan
Zeiss Sports Optics is represented in Australia / New Zealand by Outdoor Sporting Agencies based in Tarneit, Victoria, close to Melbourne. MD is Danny Galea. This is the company that runs the sports optics business in these territories and works with the dealers.hi Jan
i wrote to Zeiss Australia’s corporate office so either the customer focus culture simply isn’t being driven in Australia, or the individual who answered my email doesn’t now any different…. Either way if this is a key Zeiss concept, it should/would be part of Zeiss’s onboarding for new personnel into their business, particularly customer facing roles...
i appreciate where you’re coming from in that its not Zeiss necessarily, but i also agree with Steve where the brand is its people/culture/values and if this is important to the business, it should be heavily driven….
Zeiss Sports Optics is represented in Australia / New Zealand by Outdoor Sporting Agencies based in Tarneit, Victoria, close to Melbourne. MD is Danny Galea. This is the company that runs the sports optics business in these territories and works with the dealers.
Zeiss Australia has no involvement with sports optics. Visit their contacts page and you will see OSA on page 2 listed as the contact for all sports optics matters: Contact us
Lee
Thats great news. Enjoy them both.Thanks Lee
i ended up purchasing the SF 8x32’s anyway. Currently in Tasmania on a 2 week trip so hv taken these + my EL’s to really compare how i get along with them in the field.
8x32SF are superb bins. While I liked the 8x32NL, optically, I found the fit & feel in the hand of the SFs much better for me - a little fuller in the palm hold and more secure armor stiction.Thanks Lee
i ended up purchasing the SF 8x32’s anyway. Currently in Tasmania on a 2 week trip so hv taken these + my EL’s to really compare how i get along with them in the field.