Iberian chiffchaff (Phylloscopus ibericus) Algavre today (1 Viewer)

[buck mulligan]

Hello everyone
Could someone tell me if this is an Iberian chiffchaff (Phylloscopus ibericus) or not, please?

TIA

 

[KenM]

With a yellow fore-super, long pp and 4 emarginations….you might be hard pressed to turn this into nominate Chiffchaff.

Cheers

 

[KenM]

With a yellow fore-super, long pp and 4 emarginations….you might be hard pressed to turn this into nominate Chiffchaff.

Cheers

 

[Brian J Small]

With a yellow fore-super, long pp and 4 emarginations….you might be hard pressed to turn this into nominate Chiffchaff.

Cheers

Lots of Common Chiffchaffs have yellow fore supercila, Ken. The virtually all dark bill and legs make it a Common Chiffchaff in my eyes.

Brian

 

[KenM]

Lots of Common Chiffchaffs have yellow fore supercila, Ken. The virtually all dark bill and legs make it a Common Chiffchaff in my eyes.

Brian

Am aware of that Brian, however the pp looks too long for Chiffchaff?

 

[THE_FERN]

Given how similar /difficult this (barely diverged) species pair is, I'm really loath to commit. I think Ken has amazing eyes to be able to make a cogent wing formula from these pics

 

[buck mulligan]

Thanks for your replies


👍

 

[KenM]

Given how similar /difficult this (barely diverged) species pair is, I'm really loath to commit. I think Ken has amazing eyes to be able to make a cogent wing formula from these pics

…..beginners luck probably.👍

 

[Butty]

Ken has amazing eyes

Well-known fact.

 

[John Cantelo]

I suspect that if the photo was taken in May most would agree that it was an Iberian Chiffchaff. Any minor (apparent) anomalies could be disregarded as being within the known parameters of this taxon. Equally, on these images, it would take a brave birder to rule out Common Chiffchaff entirely. The evidence I've seen suggests that Iberian Chiffchaffs largely (or entirely) decamp from Spain & Portugal in winter and are replaced by Common Chiffchaff so the latter seems more likely.

 

[buck mulligan]

Thanks John