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Miguel Berkemeier

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PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy
They are Falcons for me, why not Eleanora's?

Edit: structure not correct (tail) for Eleanora's
 

Simon Wates

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Its flying like an Eleonora's, the wing looks "long handed" and its the time for them down the west coast of Portugal. Just saying ;)
 

RafaelMatias

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Portugal
Looking at the first photo it seems a classic Eleonora's silhouette to me.

Agree with you Simon. The first pic looks very good for Eleonora's (got that feeling independently from your post): the dark underwing coverts, contrasting with the paler bases to the flight feathers visible there are probably more than a mere impression or a photographic artifact. Together with the super long wings that's what allows ID even from a very long range. I wouldn't call it a confirmed observation, but I'd say it's most likely one.
 

Miguel Berkemeier

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Thanks a lot to everyone!
Considering the portuguese species the only possibility beyond Eleonorae is subbuteo, right?
And did you watch the video? I think that watching the first video in slow motion is very enlightening, I can upload the video again in youtube originally in slow motion if you think that it's better.
 

Simon Wates

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For me its no subbuteo, their "hand" is a noticeable bit shorter (and body seems to me a little less stocky than an Eleonora's). Eleonora's is longer winged, which often creates a narrower looking wing. I can perfectly understand why our friend Jean immediately thought Cory's Shearwater, really - there is a remarkable similarity in "jizz" at the angle of your first posted photo. On the subject of seabirds and falcons; I have sometimes said "Bulwer's Petrel" is the Eleonora's of the sea" ;)

By the way, an Eleonora's appeared in Sagres today - could even be your bird |=)|
 
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Miguel Berkemeier

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For me its no subbuteo, their "hand" is a noticeable bit shorter (and body seems to me a little less stocky than an Eleonora's). Eleonora's is longer winged, which often creates a narrower looking wing. I can perfectly understand why our friend Jean immediately thought Cory's Shearwater, really - there is a remarkable similarity in "jizz" at the angle of your first posted photo. On the subject of seabirds and falcons; I have sometimes said "Bulwer's Petrel" is the Eleonora's of the sea" ;)

By the way, an Eleonora's appeared in Sagres today - could even be your bird |=)|
I have to admit that at the first sight I thought in Bulwer's petrel :-O and I said to myself that if that bird is a seabird he only could be that species. But fastly I understood that he only could be a falcoon
 

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