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<blockquote data-quote="JANJ" data-source="post: 991203" data-attributes="member: 20722"><p>Hello Rashed.</p><p></p><p>Non of the gulls are Armenian (Larus armenicus) or Yellow-legged Gull (Larus michahellis) - most probably they are both Caspian Gulls (Larus cachinnans) or perhaps 'Steppe Gull' (Larus barabensis) because of the dark looking upperparts and yellow legs - which also could indicate so called eastern Caspian Gull - perhaps more likely in your area. So the most probably Caspian Gull theory is based on the Caspian jizz/shape and long thin bill but it should be said that gulls in your area are sometimes very difficult to identify.</p><p>The small looking head with sloping forehead and with rather slender parallel edges - weak gonys-angle. The small dark eye (paler in the right individual) and long thin neck are also characters normally associated with Caspian.</p><p></p><p>Armenian Gull is far more rare in Kuwait (it does occur there) but by the looks of your gulls they dont fit that species. Armenian has a shorter and stouter bill with blunt tip. It usually has a dark eye, a different head shape compared to Caspian and usually a dark band near the bill tip (depending on age).The upperparts is darker than Caspian Gull.</p><p></p><p>A flock of Armenian Gulls:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=11890" target="_blank">http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=11890</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.digimages.info/goearm/goearm.htm" target="_blank">http://www.digimages.info/goearm/goearm.htm</a></p><p></p><p>Check these supposed barabensis and note in some of them a shorter more blunt-tipped bill, slightly shorter legged and paler eyes:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www23.tok2.com/home/jgull/OmanGulls/barabens03.htm" target="_blank">http://www23.tok2.com/home/jgull/OmanGulls/barabens03.htm</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=80064880&size=o" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=80064880&size=o</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.magikbirds.com/image.asp?title_id=612&show_thumbnails=True" target="_blank">http://www.magikbirds.com/image.asp?title_id=612&show_thumbnails=True</a></p><p></p><p>Also here:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=67231&highlight=armenian+gull" target="_blank">http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=67231&highlight=armenian+gull</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.alsirhan.com/Armenian_Gull.htm" target="_blank">http://www.alsirhan.com/Armenian_Gull.htm</a></p><p></p><p>Yellow-legged Gull (larus michahellis is perhaps not a candidate to consider here.</p><p></p><p>JanJ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JANJ, post: 991203, member: 20722"] Hello Rashed. Non of the gulls are Armenian (Larus armenicus) or Yellow-legged Gull (Larus michahellis) - most probably they are both Caspian Gulls (Larus cachinnans) or perhaps 'Steppe Gull' (Larus barabensis) because of the dark looking upperparts and yellow legs - which also could indicate so called eastern Caspian Gull - perhaps more likely in your area. So the most probably Caspian Gull theory is based on the Caspian jizz/shape and long thin bill but it should be said that gulls in your area are sometimes very difficult to identify. The small looking head with sloping forehead and with rather slender parallel edges - weak gonys-angle. The small dark eye (paler in the right individual) and long thin neck are also characters normally associated with Caspian. Armenian Gull is far more rare in Kuwait (it does occur there) but by the looks of your gulls they dont fit that species. Armenian has a shorter and stouter bill with blunt tip. It usually has a dark eye, a different head shape compared to Caspian and usually a dark band near the bill tip (depending on age).The upperparts is darker than Caspian Gull. A flock of Armenian Gulls: [url]http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=11890[/url] [url]http://www.digimages.info/goearm/goearm.htm[/url] Check these supposed barabensis and note in some of them a shorter more blunt-tipped bill, slightly shorter legged and paler eyes: [url]http://www23.tok2.com/home/jgull/OmanGulls/barabens03.htm[/url] [url]http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=80064880&size=o[/url] [url]http://www.magikbirds.com/image.asp?title_id=612&show_thumbnails=True[/url] Also here: [url]http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=67231&highlight=armenian+gull[/url] [url]http://www.alsirhan.com/Armenian_Gull.htm[/url] Yellow-legged Gull (larus michahellis is perhaps not a candidate to consider here. JanJ [/QUOTE]
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