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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JANJ" data-source="post: 992048" data-attributes="member: 20722">Hi Rashed.Some more nice gulls from an interesting area - always a challenge!The one in image 1 looks like a big male Caspian. The bill looks quite heavy with a bulbous tip and the eye is pale - which is alright for many Caspian Gulls in eastern populations. The bill is on the large side for barabensis (?). In the second image, to the right, the same as in image 1. The one in the middle perhaps barabensis or Caspian. The one with the dark upperparts could be heuglini/fuscus. Image 3 Caspian/barabensis - the youger one (2cy type) probably barabensis.Image 4 probably eastern nominate Caspian. The underwing shows more black than on western Caspian ('ponticus') here:<a href="http://www.artportalen.se/artportalen/gallery/images/swe/birds/2006/large/25068.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.artportalen.se/artportalen/gallery/images/swe/birds/2006/large/25068.jpg</a>could be barabensis.In 5 large amount of black in primaries - Caspian/barabensis.In 6 two flying gulls in which the upper one looks darker with more black in primaries, a stouter bright yellow bill and legs and with a later moult pattern than the lower one - which indicates barabensi over Caspian - the lower one.Nr 7 Caspian/barabensis.also see these:<a href="http://www.tommypedersen.com/Caspian-SteppeGull.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tommypedersen.com/Caspian-SteppeGull.htm</a><a href="http://www.elisanet.fi/antero.lindholm/public_html/lokki/kurgaldzino.htm" target="_blank">http://www.elisanet.fi/antero.lindholm/public_html/lokki/kurgaldzino.htm</a>JanJ</blockquote>

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