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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sumit" data-source="post: 1437446" data-attributes="member: 1853">Hi Graham,Orinus is rather well named. It really has an impressive bill. Please see attached. While some traits/features appear similar, overall orinus is a fantail-flycatcher like bird - glides across branches like a falling leaf. This bird was more a typical reed bird in behaviour.And to be honest with you, as far as orinus goes, I only thought that the bird was very different from Blyth's Reed and posted the images requesting views of others. Based on positive feedback from some I sent the images to Philip Round (who caught the 1st live orinus) and Phil, plus a battery of specialists, supported the ID.I really don't have the skill to go out that far with these birds. I can feel odd about some, like this bird, and I try to take decent images, read up all the text and check all the available images and keep detailed field notes and then, if still in doubt, hope that experts will help me out. I have used the same method to document India's first mainland Japanese Sparrowhawk and India's 1st Japanese Red-Backed Shrike (Lanius cristatus superciliosus). The inputs of many is of great value and is one of the reasons that I keep coming back for help to various forums with odd birds - you never know, little is known about birds of the subcontinent and something new can pop-up. In closing, others who have supported orinus have since seen these images and have not commented. They are far better birders than I am |=)|Cheers!Sumit</blockquote>

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