Id Help - Alibag, Maharashtra, India - 3 (1 Viewer)

[mihir]

Request id help for these birds photographed this month. If you can help with pointers for differentiating between Kentish, Greater-Sand and Lesser-Sand plovers it would be great.
1) Are Heuglin and Steppe both present in this photo?
2) Dunlin?
3) Great Knot?
4)
5)

 

[lou salomon]

1. mantle colour in all adult and subadult large gulls is about the same and all 1cy have some scaps replaced, so, i would call them all barabensis.
2. little stint
3. yes, great knot (please report the leg flag, don't know the project, but maybe someone else can tell)
4. and 5. both look like lesser sand plovers to me.

 

[mihir]

1. mantle colour in all adult and subadult large gulls is about the same and all 1cy have some scaps replaced, so, i would call them all barabensis.
2. little stint
3. yes, great knot (please report the leg flag, don't know the project, but maybe someone else can tell)
4. and 5. both look like lesser sand plovers to me.

Thanks. Is there a place where tagged birds are reported?

 

[Deb Burhinus]

Thanks. Is there a place where tagged birds are reported?

Hi mihir

You can report your observations to the IWSG who keep the database for marked waders

International Wader Study Group | » Information for Observers

www.waderstudygroup.org

The database is here but it is a bit tricky to use and you need the correct colour combinations to search

IWSG Colourmarking database-2.4.2015

Updated 19.07.2022 Database,Ref,Year,Species Name,Scientific name,First name,Surname,E mail,Website/ alternative site for sightings,Country,Left tibia 3,Left tibia 2,Left tibia 1,Left Tarsus 3,Left tarsus 2,Left tarsus 1,Right tibia 3,Right tibia 2,Right tibia 1,Right tarsus 3 A,1046,2011,Bar-ta...

docs.google.com

If you can’t find the flag marked bird on the database there is an email address on the link above that I would suggest you email your images to with location and date of observation.

Hope that helps 👍

 

[RafaelMatias]

1. mantle colour in all adult and subadult large gulls is about the same and all 1cy have some scaps replaced, so, i would call them all barabensis.
2. little stint
3. yes, great knot (please report the leg flag, don't know the project, but maybe someone else can tell)
4. and 5. both look like lesser sand plovers to me.

#5 has a white collar, Kentish Plover for me.

 

[lou salomon]

#5 has a white collar, Kentish Plover for me.

Woops, touché!

 

[CARERY]

The leg band report form of the Australasian Wader Study Group should be the address to report it... would be nice to keep us updated when you find out where it was flagged

 

[mihir]

Hi mihir

You can report your observations to the IWSG who keep the database for marked waders

International Wader Study Group | » Information for Observers

www.waderstudygroup.org

The database is here but it is a bit tricky to use and you need the correct colour combinations to search

IWSG Colourmarking database-2.4.2015

Updated 19.07.2022 Database,Ref,Year,Species Name,Scientific name,First name,Surname,E mail,Website/ alternative site for sightings,Country,Left tibia 3,Left tibia 2,Left tibia 1,Left Tarsus 3,Left tarsus 2,Left tarsus 1,Right tibia 3,Right tibia 2,Right tibia 1,Right tarsus 3 A,1046,2011,Bar-ta...

docs.google.com

If you can’t find the flag marked bird on the database there is an email address on the link above that I would suggest you email your images to with location and date of observation.

Hope that helps 👍

The leg band report form of the Australasian Wader Study Group should be the address to report it... would be nice to keep us updated when you find out where it was flagged

Have reported it to both the groups. Will update once I hear from them.

 

[mihir]

Have received an update on the flagging as below

Location banded: 12163F (Yalu Jiang Nature Reserve, Liaoning Province, China)
Approximate coordinates: 39deg 49min, 124deg 4min Flag combination: Green/Orange

Sighting details:
Species: Great Knot (Calidris tenuirostris)
Observer: Mihir Joshi
Sighting location: Akshi Beach, Alibag, Maharashtra , India (18deg 37min 35min, 72deg 53min 4min)
Date: 09/11/2020
Flag(s) LEFT leg: metal band on tibia above nothing/unknown on tarsus
Flag(s) RIGHT leg: green flag on tibia above orange flag on tibia

The re-sighting distance was approximately 5410 km, with a bearing of 260 degrees, from the marking location.

 

[Nutcracker]

Nice recovery!

 

[CARERY]

Nice find indeed. Was the ringing date provided as well. Would be interesting to know as well...

 

[mihir]

Ringing date was not given.

 

[Deb Burhinus]

Well done Mihir - thanks for following through - it’s very interesting to see the ringing recovery nearly 5 1/2 thousand kilometers (West?) from where the bird was initially ringed. It would be interesting to know whether it was ringed as an adult. This was an interesting recovery of Chinese ringed Great Knot in Sri Lanka

International Wader Study Group | » Re-sighting of a Chinese flagged Great Knot in Mannar, Sri Lanka

www.waderstudygroup.org

 

[johnallcock]

Nice find indeed. Was the ringing date provided as well. Would be interesting to know as well...

Because it's a plain flag, it won't be possible to know the ringing date. The colour scheme tells you the location where it was ringed, but there could be many individuals from the same location with the same colour combination.
Some locations use engraved flags now, which makes it possible to recognise individuals in the field.

 

[smiths]

1. mantle colour in all adult and subadult large gulls is about the same and all 1cy have some scaps replaced, so, i would call them all barabensis.

I would say all of them are Heuglin's, with the exception of the rightmost first cycle bird.
They clearly show later moult than Steppe, and some show head/neck streaking that looks too strong.