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<blockquote data-quote="Acrocephalus" data-source="post: 1327038" data-attributes="member: 54391"><p>Hi everyone,</p><p></p><p>I have been ringing in Smir marshes (north-west of Morocco) during the last three years, and I have trapped some Bluethroats there (about 100 new birds). Because we tried to identify the birds to subspecies level when possible, we assigned about third of the birds to <em>cyanecula</em> subspecies (small white-spotted morph). We identified 3 birds as <em>svecica </em>subspecies (red-spotted morph), the rest were not identified to subspecies level. Surprisingly we haven’t ringed any bird that belongs to the <em>namnetum</em> subspecies (large white-spotted morph) that breeds in northwestern France.</p><p></p><p>We have ringed also some birds that lack the central spot in throat (see photograph 3), they probably belongs to Iberian birds that some authors treat them as <em>cyanecula</em> and other describe them as <em>azuricollis</em>, but I am not sure if they are actually Iberian birds or not?</p><p></p><p>Now, I would like to ask you some questions about this subject:</p><p>1-First, could you please confirm the ID (subspecies) of the birds in the photographs attached?</p><p></p><p>2-If someone has ringed the Iberian breeding birds, could tell if it is possible to separate those birds from central European <em>cyanecula </em>on biometrics data only? </p><p></p><p>3-How many often you catch the red-spotted morph (<em>svecica</em>) especially in the Iberian Peninsula?</p><p></p><p>4-How many often you catch the namnetum subspecies, because I wonder if I misidentified them with the similar <em>cyanecula</em> (both have white central spot on throat but they differ in size of that spot and in body size as well) </p><p></p><p>5-The 3 birds identified as <em>svecica</em> actually have some white admixed with red-orrange on the central spot (see photograph 2); I don’t know if this is normal or I misidentified them.</p><p></p><p>Thanks very much</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Acrocephalus, post: 1327038, member: 54391"] Hi everyone, I have been ringing in Smir marshes (north-west of Morocco) during the last three years, and I have trapped some Bluethroats there (about 100 new birds). Because we tried to identify the birds to subspecies level when possible, we assigned about third of the birds to [I]cyanecula[/I] subspecies (small white-spotted morph). We identified 3 birds as [I]svecica [/I]subspecies (red-spotted morph), the rest were not identified to subspecies level. Surprisingly we haven’t ringed any bird that belongs to the [I]namnetum[/I] subspecies (large white-spotted morph) that breeds in northwestern France. We have ringed also some birds that lack the central spot in throat (see photograph 3), they probably belongs to Iberian birds that some authors treat them as [I]cyanecula[/I] and other describe them as [I]azuricollis[/I], but I am not sure if they are actually Iberian birds or not? Now, I would like to ask you some questions about this subject: 1-First, could you please confirm the ID (subspecies) of the birds in the photographs attached? 2-If someone has ringed the Iberian breeding birds, could tell if it is possible to separate those birds from central European [I]cyanecula [/I]on biometrics data only? 3-How many often you catch the red-spotted morph ([I]svecica[/I]) especially in the Iberian Peninsula? 4-How many often you catch the namnetum subspecies, because I wonder if I misidentified them with the similar [I]cyanecula[/I] (both have white central spot on throat but they differ in size of that spot and in body size as well) 5-The 3 birds identified as [I]svecica[/I] actually have some white admixed with red-orrange on the central spot (see photograph 2); I don’t know if this is normal or I misidentified them. Thanks very much [/QUOTE]
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