ID please - Sanliurfa Turkey (1 Viewer)

[Snylm]

Thanks for your help...

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello, with long, broad based (round base to feathering) bill, extremly short undertail-covert, a full, but squar-cut tail with a notch, and whitish-silvery panel to secondaries, together with lack of any green/ilove and yellow tones/hues this is either one of those grey/brown and white Iduna warblers (and no Icterine): Olive-Tree, Upchers or an EOW.
Surely, others jump in and help us

 

[Richard Prior]

Looks more like a Rufous Bush Robin/Chat to me!

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Than thank you Richard,
this bird doesnt strike me of a RBR to me, but I am not massivly experienced with this and havent seen the mentioned Iduna warblers.

 

[Richard Prior]

Face pattern in the first photo is spot on for RBR, in the second image one can see that there is a nice orangey colour lurking in that closed tail!

 

[Snylm]

Face pattern in the first photo is spot on for RBR, in the second image one can see that there is a nice orangey colour lurking in that closed tail!

Than thank you Richard,
this bird doesnt strike me of a RBR to me, but I am not massivly experienced with this and havent seen the mentioned Iduna warblers.

I don't think it's RBR. I think it's Iduna too, but which one?

 

[lou salomon]

Rufous Bush Chat for me too. very prominent supercilium together with black eye line.

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Face pattern in the first photo is spot on for RBR, in the second image one can see that there is a nice orangey colour lurking in that closed tail!

Artefact Richard.

It's an Upcher's Warbler, really surprised by the debate!

Grahame

 

[Richard Prior]

Oops! Thanks Grahame, artefact and my vivid imagination too!

 

[KenM]

Oops! Thanks Grahame, artefact and my vivid imagination too!

Too much sugar on your cereal this morning Richard. 😄👍

 

[Snylm]

Artefact Richard.

It's an Upcher's Warbler, really surprised by the debate!

Grahame

Thank you so much Grahame

 

[Richard Prior]

Too much sugar on your cereal this morning Richard. 😄👍

I think I made the coffee too strong as well...............

 

[lou salomon]

wow. a hit into the s...hole. so, the eyeline is an artefact and that bill shape is suiting an upcher's?

 

[Brian J Small]

wow. a hit into the s...hole. so, the eyeline is an artefact and that bill shape is suiting an upcher's?

Just to help you Lou -

ML103936601 - Rufous-tailed Scrub-Robin (Rufous-tailed) - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML103936601; © Jonathan Lowes; Lesvos, Northern Aegean, Greece

macaulaylibrary.org

Brian S

 

[lou salomon]

errr. i have seen the species both in turkey and in spain, Brian. but thanks anyway .

 

[andyb39]

Hello, with long, broad based (round base to feathering) bill, extremly short undertail-covert, a full, but squar-cut tail with a notch, and whitish-silvery panel to secondaries, together with lack of any green/ilove and yellow tones/hues this is either one of those grey/brown and white Iduna warblers (and no Icterine): Olive-Tree, Upchers or an EOW.
Surely, others jump in and help us

Olive-tree and Upcher's are both Hippolais.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Thanks to Grahame, Andy and all. I just realized that I made a mistake again: commenting on a bird, where I dont have personal experience, it just looked like an Iduna/Hippolais warbler to me. And I have very little knowledge of those taxonomic issues, although I should!

 

[Indobirder]

the eyeline is an artefact

I believe Grahame was refering to the orangey color lurking in the tail as being an artifact. The same orangey can be seen on the wing

I think the "eye stripe" is just the way the feathers are arranged. Some photos of Upcher's show a darker stripe like area behind the eye (albeit less pronounced) ex: Google Image Result for https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/345072451/

 

[Parker]

Thanks to Grahame, Andy and all. I just realized that I made a mistake again: commenting on a bird, where I dont have personal experience, it just looked like an Iduna/Hippolais warbler to me. And I have very little knowledge of those taxonomic issues, although I should!

I don’t believe you were mistaken Alex you were in the right ballpark.