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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pitvar" data-source="post: 1752767" data-attributes="member: 74359"><p>As a newbie - well one year in - I quite often use the ID forum as a double check - I've been lucky enough to pick up a Collins and have a few guides from years ago but as Gradders52 says sometime the birds just don't resemble the guides or you can be 95% sure and just want confirmation. This week I posted what turned out to be a skylark thinking it was a Mippit [the bird which causes me most confusion] but today I saw a Great Grey Shrike and an LEO and had no ID problems at all - we all need help sometimes and this is a brilliant place to find it! So I say check the book [any book] to make sure its not screamingly obvious and then ask away [and thanks to everyone who helps me!]</p></blockquote><p></p>