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Ids Please near Arundel, West Sussex yesterday (1 Viewer)

Mike Beer

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Can I have help with IDs Please photographed yesterday at Climping and Ford, West Sussex.
First two in the same tree not sure, third Whitethroat last picture either Whimbrel or Curlew but I managed to cut its head off.

Mike
 

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Alexander Stöhr

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Hello Mike,
first picture shows two Reed Warblers. Left bird is more easy by
  • full, slightly rounded tail lacking whitish edges
  • the right brown shade
  • long, slender bill for a Warbler adds to an acrocephalus-jizz against other warblers
Right bird: I cant see anything wrong for a Reed Warbler (I would like to learn if a Marsh warbler can be excluded just by very long appearing claws, I am very intereste in this topic!)

Second picture shows a Reed Warbler, too by
  • the same right brownish hues
  • head profile is even more typical and id-friendly with snout, long head merging in a EDIT: quite long, spikish bill
Agree, third is a Common or Lesser Whitethroat by
  • whitish outer tail
  • different jizz with rounded head and smaller bill with different shape

But which one?
  • pale legs with a just visible yellowish/grenish tinge is just within variation for a Lesser, but also good for a Common (when picture quality is considered)
  • overall colours are darkish and cold, so at first seems better for a Lesser
  • but its hard to exclude a very worn, drab Common, for which bill shape seems slightly better

Do you have more pictures? I am not at best device to judge faint hues, but somehow it gives a Common WT jizz to me, but I am unsure.

Third is one for the real experts. But despite longish looking legs (is that really a field-mark?) it gives a Whimbrel-jizz to me:
  • drab, dark-jizz
  • Whimbrels are often more approachable than Curlews
 
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Mike Beer

Well-known member
Hello Mike,
first picture shows two Reed Warblers. Left bird is more easy by
  • full, slightly rounded tail lacking whitish edges
  • the right brown shade
  • long, slender bill for a Warbler adds to an acrocephalus-jizz against other warblers
Right bird: I cant see anything wrong for a Reed Warbler (I would like to learn if a Marsh warbler can be excluded just by very long appearing claws, I am very intereste in this topic!)

Second picture shows a Reed Warbler, too by
  • the same right brownish hues
  • head profile is even more typical and id-friendly with snout, long head merging in a long bill
Agree, third is a Common or Lesser Whitethroat by
  • whitish outer tail
  • different jizz with rounded head and smaller bill with different shape

But which one?
  • pale legs with a just visible yellowish/grenish tinge is just within variation for a Lesser, but also good for a Common (when picture quality is considered)
  • overall colours are darkish and cold, so at first seems better for a Lesser
  • but its hard to exclude a very worn, drab Common, for which bill shape seems slightly better

Do you have more pictures? I am not at best device to judge faint hues, but somehow it gives a Common WT jizz to me, but I am unsure.

Third is one for the real experts. But despite longish looking legs (is that really a field-mark?) it gives a Whimbrel-jizz to me:
  • drab, dark-jizz
  • Whimbrels are often more approachable than Curlews
I have no more better pictures and the Wimbrel/Curlew flew after my poor effort of a picture. Mike
 

Alexander Stöhr

Well-known member
Thanks Mike,
then: I am in the Common WT-camp but happy to be corrected!

And I am so unsure, with the Curlew/Whimbrel, but I think, that people with very extensive and recent experience can ID this bird ith confidence. Did the bird call, when it flew off?
 

THE_FERN

Well-known member
Common whitethroat for me. Expect lesser to be darker.

Probably a curlew for the last. Without certainty, but long legs and patterning suggest it to me. If photos are recent then more likely this I think.
 

Mike Beer

Well-known member
Thanks Mike,
then: I am in the Common WT-camp but happy to be corrected!

And I am so unsure, with the Curlew/Whimbrel, but I think, that people with very extensive and recent experience can ID this bird ith confidence. Did the bird call, when it flew off?
Sorry for the late reply but I had used all my data on my phone and the camp site I was staying on had no WiFi. I did not hear any call when the bird flew I probably frightened it away by swearing quite loud when I saw I had cut its head off.

Mike
 
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