India, Rajahstan: Warbler and Prinia ID help (1 Viewer)

[ugolino]

Dear all,
I am confused with this Prinia taken in April in Rajahstan a few years ago. Ist it a Jungle Prinia ?
Ditto with this warbler, but I am completely dry with clues .... any idea ?
Thoughts are welcome. Many thanks in advance, ugolino

 

[Andrew Whitehouse]

1. Jungle Prinia
2. Lesser Whitethroat - maybe minula?

 

[Seth Miller]

I would agree with Jungle Prinia, since it seems to have the dark malar spot that they often have.
The warbler is in the Sylvia genus. Not 100% sure, but I think its a 1st winter Eastern Orphean Warbler.

edit: I hadn't seen Andrew's post before I posted. Lesser Whitethroat was my other option for the warbler. Could you explain why it is that, rather than what I thought. I'd love to learn.

 

[Andrew Whitehouse]

I would agree with Jungle Prinia, since it seems to have the dark malar spot that they often have.
The warbler is in the Sylvia genus. Not 100% sure, but I think its a 1st winter Eastern Orphean Warbler.

edit: I hadn't seen Andrew's post before I posted. Lesser Whitethroat was my other option for the warbler. Could you explain why it is that, rather than what I thought. I'd love to learn.

Sometimes Orphean and Lesser Whitethroat are tricky in photos where the size difference is less obvious. To me this bird looks very dainty though (partly why I suggested minula) and the bill is quite thin. Orphean is a heavier billed and 'rangier' looking bird.

 

[Larry Sweetland]

I'd also consider Rufous-fronted for the prinia(?).

Agree with Lesser Whitethroat (s)sp. Location would be helpful for both perhaps. For the Lesser Whitethroat, minula is I think only likely in desert areas in the far west of the state, with taxa still within Lesser Whitethroat more likely in general.

 

[Andrew Whitehouse]

I'd also consider Rufous-fronted for the prinia(?).

Agree with Lesser Whitethroat (s)sp. Location would be helpful for both perhaps. For the Lesser Whitethroat, minula is I think only likely in desert areas in the far west of the state, with taxa still within Lesser Whitethroat more likely in general.

I think it could easily be something like halimodendri - at least if that's likely in the area. It's maybe not sandy enough for minula.

 

[ugolino]

Many thanks to all. Another photo of the Prinia, in case this helps sort out the issue of "Jungle" or "Rufous-fronted.
Ugolino