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Irresponsible Dog owners (1 Viewer)
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silvercrest
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wots a bipedal monkey? i looked at your location to see if you live in Africa or gibralter or the like but i see youre in the uk
Pete Mella
Getting there...
I think to be more technically correct he meant a certain bipedal Hominid that descended from a common ancestor of modern monkeys
And this is the dog-hating thread, there's plenty of cat-hating threads elsewhere! (another
)silvercrest
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I think to be more technically correct he meant a certain bipedal Hominid that descended from a common ancestor of modern monkeys
And this is the dog-hating thread, there's plenty of cat-hating threads elsewhere! (another
BIPEDAL HOMINID? COMMON ANCESTOR? doh! now im more confused than ever:-C
Pete Mella
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People.
dantheman
Bah humbug
Sorry, (trust this is not because you are from essex lol ), but we're talking people/humans/mankind here......
They've ****ed up the environment big time in various ways. (had to put the stars in myself there - autoswear thingy doesn't mind the f word in the past tense!!).
Overpopulation generally and all the other things like bad farming methods etc etc (but that's been discussed in other threads too).
Anyways - dogs.....
), but we're talking people/humans/mankind here......They've ****ed up the environment big time in various ways. (had to put the stars in myself there - autoswear thingy doesn't mind the f word in the past tense!!).
Overpopulation generally and all the other things like bad farming methods etc etc (but that's been discussed in other threads too).
Anyways - dogs.....
DunnoKev
Guest
Then read it again Dean from my perspective and not your own. I am extremely allergic to dog hair. It causes an immediate closure of my windpipe. I am taking appropriate action to protect myself. My choice is boot the thing away or face rolling on the floor unable to breathe. So far not one owner has objected as I explain this to them in my best Anglo Saxon terminology whilst I'm booting Sniffles/Tiddles/Fido/Fang away. Perhaps I'll carry a lickle baby from now on that I could throw at the dog as a diversion whilst I make my retreat to avoid having to be nasty to a doggie??
'Greeted by a dog' my *rs*. Jumping up at another person whilst trying to lick their face and nads is not a recognised greeting where I come from. It is an uncontrolled animal. Keep it on a lead. If someone's walking towards me with dogs off lead but then put 'em on as we draw near (I think the locals know me now) I will always thank them very politely for showing consideration and point out my appreciation of their action, being highly allergic which they couldn't possibly know(!). I rather hope they take this action with all people they meet (though I'd rather they kept 'em on leads full stop).
Had a pr*tt this weekend try to walk through the field next to my house with the bull and cattle in with his dawg off the lead, contrary to all the farmers' well posted signs. Mayhem. Luckily I had a bag of feed that I ran out to the cows to help draw them away. Owner thanked me for helping saving his doggie, I pointed out I didn't give a stuff about his pooch (again, in best anglo-saxon). I was worried about the young calves getting injured.
Said owner tried to save face by making some sort of excuse about Poochie slipping his lead, to which I pointed out I'd seen him enter the field with the dog off lead. And also that I'd done him a favour by ensuring the dog didn't end up savaging one of them because his own irresponsibility would have signed his beloved pet's death warrant. Actions. Consequences.
The levels of irresponsibility may seem to be slight to the dog owners, but as every dog has the capability of attacking a sheep/calf (child), why is it too much to ask to keep the ruddy things on leads in public places regardless? Simple answer, owners care more about their pets than others.
"My dog wouldn't bite a cow/sheep/child." Yeah, right, whatever.
silvercrest
Well-known member
PEOPLE! oh, got it now. great. Super. i didnt get where i am today by knowing that bipedal monkeys means people. Reggie. I might be playing with fire here, but is there an equivalent term for DOGS?
dantheman
Bah humbug
Four-legged poo factory??
Yorkshire Terriers generally resemble drowned rats... Quadripedal Rat on a String?
Anyway.....
silvercrest
Well-known member
dog joke: when im feeling down i like to whistle. It makes the neighbours dog run to the end of the chain and gag itself
Peewit
Once a bird lover ... always a bird lover
hi Dunnokev
I am not a farmer at all, but I do understand where you are coming from with the dogs and the livestock situation.
I stayed at a bunglaow next to a farm, and the farmer next door to us owned the bungalow in question. So we where tenants of the farmers bungalow.
Between the bungalow and the farm there was a 'run down' x quarry house which looked lke a reject off Steptoe and son - a junk yard full of tyres, car pieces, and the place looked filthy. The people looked scruffy and unkempt (at least 10 kids where running around) and we avoided them like the plague.
In the junk year lived 3 large mongrel dogs which my partner and I hated due to the fact they spent a lot of their time pooing and peeing in our front drive until we made it a rule to keep the gates shut at all times. Then they decided to leap over the wall to cause more hassle for us.
One night the dogs chased the farmers (our landlords) sheep which had young lambs and (not all of the animals had not given birth), and killed a dozen or so animals and caused some sheep to drop lambs (from the shock of being chased)
The farmer shot the dogs on sight as they where so out of control and had no regrets doing it at all.
The ironic thing the 'same' family bought 2 more large dogs and they where as bad as the other 3 dogs. One day I was knocked over while walking along the road close the house. I was furious! :C
The farmer on the other hand hated the family as they gave him endless grief. They did not listen and where abusive to anyone they saw as interfering with their lives. It was one way road with them all of the time. That was this family though - they did not care what harm their 'out of control' dogs caused to other people. Just teethering them or keeping them on a lead would have made everyones lives more happier all round.
Sadly there are some people who have the mentality of not thinking how their actions affect others. There is nothing you can do to reach any type of compromise with them. Even shooting their dogs only increased the aggro and add insult to injury the new dogs where just as untrained as the original ones
So in this case I felt sorry for the dogs not having the right training in the first place. They where bored, and out of control 24/7. The owners of the dogs where not interested at all in any living thing other than themselves. So... not right at all... :C:C
I am not a farmer at all, but I do understand where you are coming from with the dogs and the livestock situation.
I stayed at a bunglaow next to a farm, and the farmer next door to us owned the bungalow in question. So we where tenants of the farmers bungalow.
Between the bungalow and the farm there was a 'run down' x quarry house which looked lke a reject off Steptoe and son - a junk yard full of tyres, car pieces, and the place looked filthy. The people looked scruffy and unkempt (at least 10 kids where running around) and we avoided them like the plague.
In the junk year lived 3 large mongrel dogs which my partner and I hated due to the fact they spent a lot of their time pooing and peeing in our front drive until we made it a rule to keep the gates shut at all times. Then they decided to leap over the wall to cause more hassle for us.
One night the dogs chased the farmers (our landlords) sheep which had young lambs and (not all of the animals had not given birth), and killed a dozen or so animals and caused some sheep to drop lambs (from the shock of being chased)
The farmer shot the dogs on sight as they where so out of control and had no regrets doing it at all.
The ironic thing the 'same' family bought 2 more large dogs and they where as bad as the other 3 dogs. One day I was knocked over while walking along the road close the house. I was furious! :C
The farmer on the other hand hated the family as they gave him endless grief. They did not listen and where abusive to anyone they saw as interfering with their lives. It was one way road with them all of the time. That was this family though - they did not care what harm their 'out of control' dogs caused to other people. Just teethering them or keeping them on a lead would have made everyones lives more happier all round.
Sadly there are some people who have the mentality of not thinking how their actions affect others. There is nothing you can do to reach any type of compromise with them. Even shooting their dogs only increased the aggro and add insult to injury the new dogs where just as untrained as the original ones
So in this case I felt sorry for the dogs not having the right training in the first place. They where bored, and out of control 24/7. The owners of the dogs where not interested at all in any living thing other than themselves. So... not right at all... :C:C
ChrisKten
It's true, I quite like Pigeons
Sad to see so many that appear to hate dogs. I can understand being angry at irresponsible dog owners (the original topic of this thread), but I can't understand the venom directed towards dogs.
In fact I don't see how self professed "Nature Lovers" can hate any Bird or Animal. In my mind those who only accept/like/observe certain species are not "Nature Lovers" at all. I have heard others call it Species, Bird, or Animal apartheid, it's only now that I understand what they meant.
Yes, people are going to flame me for posting that, but I'm fine with that. What people (including myself) post in forums on the Internet has little effect IRL. Mostly it's a bit of fun, other times it can be quite revealing of human nature, to me this thread is one of those times.
In fact I don't see how self professed "Nature Lovers" can hate any Bird or Animal. In my mind those who only accept/like/observe certain species are not "Nature Lovers" at all. I have heard others call it Species, Bird, or Animal apartheid, it's only now that I understand what they meant.
Yes, people are going to flame me for posting that, but I'm fine with that. What people (including myself) post in forums on the Internet has little effect IRL. Mostly it's a bit of fun, other times it can be quite revealing of human nature, to me this thread is one of those times.
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
You were lucky. Twice I've been assaulted by dog owners. Once when a dog nipped me from behind and I turned to shoo it away and once when one peed on my tent and I pushed it off. In both cases I could not have provoked the dog's actions in any way but ended up on the recieving end of some pretty nasty people.
Had an interesting one a few weeks back where I could see a dog off the lead coming towards me a fair way off but didn't look a problem. Still some way away it starts snarling towards me so I hop on my bike and go around to avoid any trouble. The owner then starts shouting at me saying what do I think I'm doing, the dog will be OK. Just seems to be the way with many owners.
Pete Mella
Getting there...
I see what you're getting at, but "animal lovers" and "nature lovers" are different things. A dog is not part of nature, it's a strange genetically manipulated wolf bred by people, that lives in a house and eats biscuits. You can be a nature lover without having any kind of liking for domestic animals whatsoever.
Anyway I think, apart from a few tongue in cheek posts, this is a thread about inconsiderate dog-owners not people hating dogs themselves.
Peewit
Once a bird lover ... always a bird lover
Hi Brian
Yes, a lot of what you have said rings true, Brian Dogs owners forget that their is bond between the dog and the owner - not other people. So to me that is when the dogs can be unpredictable.
A few years ago, I was really taken aback what happened to me relating to a neighbours Alsation dog. (a little of the topic but relevant i hope)
I was walking along one of the local road (in the countryside) close to where i stayed on my own. Nothing strange about that at all, just a quiet walk on my own.
Then as I walked along the public road, I could see this large Alsation dog bounding up towards me, I thought nothing of it. The dog continued bounding right up to me stared at me face to face, and leapt up with its paws on my shoulders and bit my upper back and arm. It all happened so fast I did not have time to react to the dog.
The dog went back into the yard it came out of and disappeared. I went straight up to the door of the house and knocked hard on the door. A lady answered, and I said to her that her dog had bitten me 2 times and had left a hole in an expensive jacket I was wearing (well it was my OH's jacket to be honest).
I said look at my arm and there where the teeth marks. I could see her house was in disarry.
I said what are you going to do about this assualt on my person from your dog.
She looked at me and said I am so sorry and gave me £100 straight cash and said the money is to replace my damaged Northface jacket.
I said I am going to report your dog to the local Police in our town straight away. She said please do not the dog is 14 years old and he had escaped and THAT WAS ALL!!!! What an attitude!!
Anyway I felt shaken up and proceeded to go to the shops where I was wanting to get one or two things. i began to feel awful after the shock of being bitten.
Luckily the lady assistance in the shop asked me if i was alright and I could feel myself shaking like a leaf. She gave me advice what to do. After a cup of sugery tea, I went straight to the Police.
The Police took my details and I explained that an Alasation had bitten me in 2 places/damaged my clothes, and I wanted to launch a complaint against the dog's owner in question.
The Officer took my details and said to me that there had been a previous 6 complaints against the same dog from different people - mainly neighbours who live closeby to the dog itself. 6 COMPLAINTS!!!
I said look I love dogs but if I had been a child (dont get me started on that subject with children being hurt) I could have ended up with worse wounds or my face bitten off.
Anyway 2 Officers came around to my home later and checked up to see if all was alright. I was up to date with my tetunus jabs so that was ok'd at least.
Once you have an experience like this the term cute and cuddly with large dogs like Alsation or any type of guard dog does not come to mind anymore. This dog was a trained guard dog which got out of its cage and was trained to hurt people. It did not know how to behave any different at all.
This is the only time, I have ever been bitten by a dog in my life, and I pray it never happens again.
I still love dogs though despite of the experience, and always will. :t:
Yes, a lot of what you have said rings true, Brian Dogs owners forget that their is bond between the dog and the owner - not other people. So to me that is when the dogs can be unpredictable.
A few years ago, I was really taken aback what happened to me relating to a neighbours Alsation dog. (a little of the topic but relevant i hope)
I was walking along one of the local road (in the countryside) close to where i stayed on my own. Nothing strange about that at all, just a quiet walk on my own.
Then as I walked along the public road, I could see this large Alsation dog bounding up towards me, I thought nothing of it. The dog continued bounding right up to me stared at me face to face, and leapt up with its paws on my shoulders and bit my upper back and arm. It all happened so fast I did not have time to react to the dog.
The dog went back into the yard it came out of and disappeared. I went straight up to the door of the house and knocked hard on the door. A lady answered, and I said to her that her dog had bitten me 2 times and had left a hole in an expensive jacket I was wearing (well it was my OH's jacket to be honest).
I said look at my arm and there where the teeth marks. I could see her house was in disarry.
I said what are you going to do about this assualt on my person from your dog.
She looked at me and said I am so sorry and gave me £100 straight cash and said the money is to replace my damaged Northface jacket.
I said I am going to report your dog to the local Police in our town straight away. She said please do not the dog is 14 years old and he had escaped and THAT WAS ALL!!!! What an attitude!!
Anyway I felt shaken up and proceeded to go to the shops where I was wanting to get one or two things. i began to feel awful after the shock of being bitten.
Luckily the lady assistance in the shop asked me if i was alright and I could feel myself shaking like a leaf. She gave me advice what to do. After a cup of sugery tea, I went straight to the Police.
The Police took my details and I explained that an Alasation had bitten me in 2 places/damaged my clothes, and I wanted to launch a complaint against the dog's owner in question.
The Officer took my details and said to me that there had been a previous 6 complaints against the same dog from different people - mainly neighbours who live closeby to the dog itself. 6 COMPLAINTS!!!
I said look I love dogs but if I had been a child (dont get me started on that subject with children being hurt) I could have ended up with worse wounds or my face bitten off.
Anyway 2 Officers came around to my home later and checked up to see if all was alright. I was up to date with my tetunus jabs so that was ok'd at least.
Once you have an experience like this the term cute and cuddly with large dogs like Alsation or any type of guard dog does not come to mind anymore. This dog was a trained guard dog which got out of its cage and was trained to hurt people. It did not know how to behave any different at all.
This is the only time, I have ever been bitten by a dog in my life, and I pray it never happens again.
I still love dogs though despite of the experience, and always will. :t:
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ChrisKten
It's true, I quite like Pigeons
For the sake of discussion:
I suppose I could use the argument that all that we see is part of Nature (incidentally, I've often argued the opposite). If Man is part of Nature and we have selectively bred an animal, isn't that animal part of Nature? Because if it isn't, does that mean that Man introducing a Bird species into an area makes that species not part of Nature? Or does it only apply if we use selective breeding, as in dogs?
I guess that if you mean that there is a difference between domesticated and wild animals, then I agree the animal's behaviour is different. Although stray dogs/cats quickly revert to being wild if left to their own devices. But I see no difference beyond that.
I suppose what I was getting at was more a respect for life, rather than a love of Nature.
That may be true, but the "tongue in cheek posts" in this thread, and in other threads, seem to be about Dogs, Cats, Squirrels, Raptors, Corvids, etc. I get the impression that there is malice behind the attempts at humour. I don't remember seeing such posts directed towards any rare or "pretty" Birds.
Incidentally, I accept that we don't all think alike. My post was mainly to point out what impression others might get from reading this thread. Hopefully I've not come across as too much of a Troll.|=)|
Pete Mella
Getting there...
Absolutely nothing trollish about your post at all, don't worry!
ChrisKten
It's true, I quite like Pigeons
I'm relieved.|=)|
I have to be careful as this is one of many forums I post in. Some of the other forums are not "nice" and parts of my persona on those forums could creep into forums that are "nice", so to speak. Sometimes it's quite difficult to realise that it's happening.
dantheman
Bah humbug
Trolls, now then they're completely different. Much maligned as a species, when all they want to do is quietly sit under bridges and throw rocks at people and innocent things like that...
Seriously, of course there's some malice behind some of the comments. That's because some of the comments are made by humans, some of whose characteristics are having strong viewpoints, making judgements on others and remembering things... if it was too fluffy on here it would be dreadfully boring and sameish.....
Farnboro John
Well-known member
Trolls, now then they're completely different. Much maligned as a species, when all they want to do is quietly sit under bridges and throw rocks at people and innocent things like that...
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Try and tell that to a Billy Goat.
John
