Irresponsible Dog owners (1 Viewer)

[dantheman]

Try and tell that to a Billy Goat.

...and as for goats... well .... :eek!:

(Island endemics and irresponsible sailors/maritime goat owners and all that.... )

 

[silvercrest]

Sad to see so many that appear to hate dogs. I can understand being angry at irresponsible dog owners (the original topic of this thread), but I can't understand the venom directed towards dogs.

In fact I don't see how self professed "Nature Lovers" can hate any Bird or Animal. In my mind those who only accept/like/observe certain species are not "Nature Lovers" at all. I have heard others call it Species, Bird, or Animal apartheid, it's only now that I understand what they meant.

Yes, people are going to flame me for posting that, but I'm fine with that. What people (including myself) post in forums on the Internet has little effect IRL. Mostly it's a bit of fun, other times it can be quite revealing of human nature, to me this thread is one of those times.

Im not venomous towards dogs,ChrisKten. i love dogs and ive had one or two myself including a Kennel club registered German Shephard, and not forgetting my poor old lurcher, Cub, who has sadly passed on, and who i still love. of course, im sure i speak for us all when i say that were all really having a go at the dog owners, a lot of whom are one-brain-cell prats, and shouldnt be allowed to keep goldfish, let alone dogs. These in dividuals display the same attitude as old fashioned lord of the manors going around beating the peasants with a stick. fortunately, most dog-owners i meet up with are very friendly and will stop to chat, but most of us on here have had seriously bad encounters with these dog owners and we're just letting off steam. this thread is an Anadine one, which means were just comforting ourselves after being on the wrong end, just as 606 on Radio5 Live is a phone in for football fans to rant on after their team has lost.

 

[ChrisKten]

Im not venomous towards dogs,ChrisKten. i love dogs and ive had one or two myself including a Kennel club registered German Shephard, and not forgetting my poor old lurcher, Cub, who has sadly passed on, and who i still love. of course, im sure i speak for us all when i say that were all really having a go at the dog owners, a lot of whom are one-brain-cell prats, and shouldnt be allowed to keep goldfish, let alone dogs. These in dividuals display the same attitude as old fashioned lord of the manors going around beating the peasants with a stick. fortunately, most dog-owners i meet up with are very friendly and will stop to chat, but most of us on here have had seriously bad encounters with these dog owners and we're just letting off steam. this thread is an Anadine one, which means were just comforting ourselves after being on the wrong end, just as 606 on Radio5 Live is a phone in for football fans to rant on after their team has lost.

I've had dogs for over 30 years, and my family had dogs before that, so I've been around dogs for over 50 years. My last dog died young of a brain tumour 2 years ago, and if I'm honest, I've not quite got over it yet. So it's possible I'm a bit sensitive to the subject of dogs at the moment (but I don't regret what I posted).

As for irresponsible dog owners, I mostly hate them with a passion. However, my reasons for the hate are very different from other posters here. The fact is that it's always the dogs that suffer, never the owners.

An example:

I read a story the other day about someone who was bitten by dogs. Apparently this person was at a friends house, the friend had two German Shepherds. The two dogs started fighting, so this person tried to break up the fight.

Now for a start, you never get between dogs when they are fighting, they will bite you as a reflex. I won't say how you break up the fight, but suffice it to say you don't try to get between them with your arms waving about. You should also never ever go near fighting dogs that are not your own, and you should never try to grab them.

So anyway, he got bitten, serves him right. But the owner of the 2 dogs requested that the Police kill them [sarcasm] sorry, should I say put to sleep [/sarcasm], the Police obliged. So two perfectly healthy GS Dogs were killed because they were fighting with each other. The owner of the dogs obviously knew nothing about dogs, and should never have been allowed to own a large breed, let alone two. In fact he shouldn't own a dog again, but I bet he will.

The headline for the above story never mentioned the dogs being killed, only the man being bitten.

 

[username]

Trolls, now then they're completely different. Much maligned as a species, when all they want to do is quietly sit under bridges and throw rocks at people and innocent things like that...

Seriously, of course there's some malice behind some of the comments. That's because some of the comments are made by humans, some of whose characteristics are having strong viewpoints, making judgements on others and remembering things... if it was too fluffy on here it would be dreadfully boring and sameish.....

You got it all wrong Danthe.....
me n a ladyfriend got attacked by trolls last year whilst taking a pleasant walk along the canal. The 'hooded trolls'..[maybe a subspecies]....were not sitting quietly under the bridge.....'we' were under the bridge...and they decided it wud be a 'bit of a larf' to pin us down by lobbing rocks at us from the top of the bridge! Wot fun! I cud tell you wot happened next...but as this is a thread about dog owners....i guess i might be veering off track...again...!

ps....dog owners?..[some of them]....don't get me started for gawds sake

 

[silvercrest]

:C
Just wondered how other members felt about dogs being allowed on Nature Reserves. The other day I was visiting Buckenham Marshes in Norfolk and was dismayed to see a man with three dogs on the reserve. It wouldnt have been so bad if they had been on leads but none were and they were running about all over the place. Luckily no damage was done as the reserve was fairly quiet - but imagine the chaos there might have been if there had been a lot of wildfowl at the waters edge? Im a dog lover but I do think there is a time and a place for letting dogs run free??
A couple of days later I was down by the river where I work in Thetford (I work at the BTO) and I was disgusted to see a black labrador swimming about in the river. There were several mallard and canada geese and a mute swan on the river at the time and by the way the geese reacted they were not happy. The owners just stood there watching until the dog clambered out of the water and they sheepishly scurried away from the scene. Again no damage done but what if there had been young about and the dog had continued to chase the birds in the water???
Of course people are entitled to walk their dogs in places of natural interest but why oh why dont they keep them on leads. Sheer irresponsibility.
Anyway on a lighter note have spent the afternoon in the garden weeding the patio and have been helped out by our local Robin - what a joy when he landed and arms length away from me and my husband, looked in the shed window and flew away. Arent birds wonderful.

perhaps weve all forgotten what the original question was. well, i think letting dogs run loose on nature reserves is the same as letting run loose around sheep and catle etc. but surely its up to the staff on reserves (if the reserve is staffed) to confront these people. if there are no staff, such as at old hall marshes, then surely its up to us to confront these people on behalf of the staff?

 

[cjay]

All of my formerly good birding sites and my current ones have been ruined by Dog walkers and their dogs. However early I get out I can never beat the dog walker who scares everything off.

At Benacre NNR. the dog walkers ignore all the signs and ignore requests from the likes of us, usually along with some verbal abuse.

 

[Peewit]

perhaps weve all forgotten what the original question was. well, i think letting dogs run loose on nature reserves is the same as letting run loose around sheep and catle etc. but surely its up to the staff on reserves (if the reserve is staffed) to confront these people. if there are no staff, such as at old hall marshes, then surely its up to us to confront these people on behalf of the staff?

Hi silvercrest

I see that The lodge RSPB. dogs are only allowed on the Bridleways due to the sensitive area. There are sheep grazing in the area so some types of dogs and sheep a no no

To me it is laying down the rules at the start, so everyone sticks to them

A good idea would be to let people know what is acceptable, and what is not in advance through media exposure.
All Local Nature Reserves (LNR) to have details placed on their websites, boards, blogs, and leaflets about the issues of dogs. Simple as that.

There should be an all round communal attempt to keep dogs in control at all time. Nothing hard about that - it is up to the owner who is in control of his animal to stick to a few basic rules - simple as that.

 

[Mannix]

Dog walkers are a complete pain in the arse and don't give a monkeys about anyone else. I go to Spurn a lot and one of the main reasons I go is because of their stringent No Dogs rule. But the minute the bloke on the gate leaves they come in their droves and let the ridiculous creatures run wherever they like. It should be legal to walk up and shoot them.

 

[Pete Mella]

Dog walkers are a complete pain in the arse and don't give a monkeys about anyone else. I go to Spurn a lot and one of the main reasons I go is because of their stringent No Dogs rule. But the minute the bloke on the gate leaves they come in their droves and let the ridiculous creatures run wherever they like.

Very true.

It should be legal to walk up and shoot them.

Don't be silly.

 

[dantheman]

Dog walkers are a complete pain in the arse ...

I have a feeling it is not yet legal to shoot dog owners in this country.....

 

[silvercrest]

I have a feeling it is not yet legal to shoot dog owners in this country.....

are there plans afoot then?:cat:

 

[silvercrest]

two duck hunters were hunting on the marsh one day. one hunter says to the other:"We're not having much luck today." The other replies: "Maybe we're not throwing the dog high enough."

 

[Jos Stratford]

Dogs. It should be legal to walk up and shoot them.

im gonna go even more controversial and suggest that humans ought to be banned form keeping cats as well.

Not controversial, just fascist. It is a low intellect mentality that says 'I don't like it, ban it'. You know, I don't like music played loud, let's ban all radios and stereo systems, not too keen on beer bottles chucked in a lake either, should ban beer too. Might as well ban everything else too.

Grow up children, if you have a problem with irresponsible behaviour by some elements of a society, you don't deal with it by blanket banning something enjoyed by a majority, or near majority, of the society.

 

[silvercrest]

Not controversial, just fascist. It is a low intellect mentality that says 'I don't like it, ban it'. You know, I don't like music played loud, let's ban all radios and stereo systems, not too keen on beer bottles chucked in a lake either, should ban beer too. Might as well ban everything else too.

Grow up children, if you have a problem with irresponsible behaviour by some elements of a society, you don't deal with it by blanket banning something enjoyed by a majority, or near majority, of the society.

fascist is a very strong and objectionable word. i tjhink you ought to think about using the term fascist or other similar terms when referring to other people. buddy, one thing i am not is a fascist.

 

[Jos Stratford]

fascist is a very strong and objectionable word. i tjhink you ought to think about using the term fascist or other similar terms when referring to other people. buddy, one thing i am not is a fascist.

Thanks for your concern - I assure you the choice of words was carefully thought about, ta.

Just to check I hadn't chosen the wrong word, here is a definition thanks to Wikipedia
"the word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive".

Now, someone calling for a blanket ban on something for mere reasons that they don't like it, regardless that the masses do like it, qualifies on at least the first two grounds (oppressive & intolerant), not far off the fifth too (dictatorial). So, buddy, that makes you one 3

 

[cjay]

I think that dog mess must affect the habitats for insects and plants as we still see it around. Why nature reserves and beautiful places attract dog walkers who have no interest in wildlife I have no idea.

 

[deanlewis]

Im not venomous towards dogs,ChrisKten. i love dogs and ive had one or two myself including a Kennel club registered German Shephard, and not forgetting my poor old lurcher, Cub, who has sadly passed on, and who i still love. of course, im sure i speak for us all when i say that were all really having a go at the dog owners, a lot of whom are one-brain-cell prats, and shouldnt be allowed to keep goldfish, let alone dogs. These in dividuals display the same attitude as old fashioned lord of the manors going around beating the peasants with a stick. fortunately, most dog-owners i meet up with are very friendly and will stop to chat, but most of us on here have had seriously bad encounters with these dog owners and we're just letting off steam. this thread is an Anadine one, which means were just comforting ourselves after being on the wrong end, just as 606 on Radio5 Live is a phone in for football fans to rant on after their team has lost.

Silvercrest forgive me if I appear to have one brain cell, but your posts don't come across as someone who loves dogs, I think you are a bit of a wind up merchant, i'm not saying that you don't have an allergic reaction , but where are the dog owners dogs when you are having your friendly chats after you have shown the dogs ribs your steel toe caps ??
The problem with this thread is that the only dog owners on here are obviously responsible and will defend that fact, it is a shame that people still have an attitude of tarring everyone with the same brush. Just one other thing I have had my dog now for almost 6 years, I would be happy to pay £100 a year for a licence, if the same goes for other large pets. In that time I have probably only ever had 3 or 4 other dogs jump up at me and that is with me enthusiastically greeting them.

 

[silvercrest]

Silvercrest forgive me if I appear to have one brain cell, but your posts don't come across as someone who loves dogs, I think you are a bit of a wind up merchant, i'm not saying that you don't have an allergic reaction , but where are the dog owners dogs when you are having your friendly chats after you have shown the dogs ribs your steel toe caps ??
The problem with this thread is that the only dog owners on here are obviously responsible and will defend that fact, it is a shame that people still have an attitude of tarring everyone with the same brush. Just one other thing I have had my dog now for almost 6 years, I would be happy to pay £100 a year for a licence, if the same goes for other large pets. In that time I have probably only ever had 3 or 4 other dogs jump up at me and that is with me enthusiastically greeting them.

it wasnt me that said i booted dogs with my steel toe cap. i do not have an allergic reaction to dogs. perhaps you ought tore-read the threads again? because that wasnt me.

 

[christineredgate]

This thread seems to be quite vitriolic.Perhaps it should be closed.There will always be dog owners who are totally oblivious to the birds and wildlife,as indeed ,will next door's moggy decimate the blackbirds nest in your privet hedge.

 

[deanlewis]

it wasnt me that said i booted dogs with my steel toe cap. i do not have an allergic reaction to dogs. perhaps you ought tore-read the threads again? because that wasnt me.

Silvercrest I do sincerly appologise, It does appear that the poster who my reply was aimed at was correct and I do only have 1 brain cell. I think my confussion was down to a rushed reply. I think I will now start a new thread to ban people from posting whoo have had a drink !!

Dean