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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ChrisKten" data-source="post: 3305746" data-attributes="member: 69033">Just a couple of points, Andrea:With the Panasonics (and many other Suprezooms) you can get sharp pics at max focal length at shutter speeds as low as 1/10th second, with the help of the in-camera image stabilization. (There's many pics in my gallery taken at 1/25th second and below that are sharp, especially considering they are taken through double glazing) Obviously you'd prefer a faster shutter speed, but the fact ISO 800 is the max acceptable ISO for retaining enough detail on these small sensors means you often need to compromise. Although the image stabilization helps, it can't defeat the wind blowing feathers, or a subject that is almost never still. The only way I've found to mitigate this is by taking bursts, and being lucky with the timing. Actually, if you watch your subjects for many hours over the years, you can predict when they might be still, and time your burst of shots to catch the moment. Luck is still needed though, as it's not an exact science <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />BTW, I wasn't suggesting the first two shots needed a lower ISO, just that they was under-exposed by 2/3rds of a stop, and that enhanced the noise and therefore the smearing from noise reduction.</blockquote>