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Is it worth buying the new nl 52 (1 Viewer)

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And which one would you buy if any if you already own the 12x42nl
I like to use my binoculars for general use.
Not sure if I would see a big difference
 
This is not what you wanted to hear I am afraid. Get a 8x32NL, keep your 12x42NL, and never look back. There you have it.
I have to admit, that sounds about right to me too. I’ve used the 12x42 for a few years now, and I’ve been thinking that an 8x or 10x32 is the better companion. Hence my ambivalent reaction to the news. I may eat my words after getting around to checking out a 52 in person, and then I would probably choose maximum magnification. Love the chutzpah of Swaro, releasing this option, though. So I have to try it, at least!
 
And which one would you buy if any if you already own the 12x42nl
I like to use my binoculars for general use.
Not sure if I would see a big difference

I have the 12x42 and 10x32 NL for different situation. For general use, 10x better than 8x and 32mm considered the middle ground for lightweight bino. I had the 8x32 and 10x42 EL since 2013 but always wishing for 10x32 EL that time for general usage
 
And which one would you buy if any if you already own the 12x42nl
I like to use my binoculars for general use.
Not sure if I would see a big difference
I would get the NL 10x52. Obviously, you like high magnification and 10x would be higher than a 8x but give you a bigger FOV, better DOF, easier eye placement, it would be steadier, and it would be much brighter than your NL 12x42, especially in low light.

You would definitely see a big difference. The 10x50 EL was the best 10x50 made, and the NL 10x52 can only better with its huge FOV and slightly bigger aperture. I think the NL 10x52 is going to be a killer binocular.

I believe the NL 14x52 will be awesome also, but I like it more for astro use rather than birding. 14x is a lot of magnification to hold steady without a tripod. 10x is a lot more manageable.
 
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People are easily seduced by magnification, but it is far from the be all and the end all.

The things you give up to get it are more enjoyable for me.

I think a binocular on a tripod is an awkward abomination, but I’m sure many disagree.
Well said. Well-intentioned discussion of a product that virtually no one has even seen, much less even handled, seems akin to Fool's Gold unless one is a die-hard collector.
 
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I think it’s a pretty reasonable guess that the new NL “twins” will be stunning, otherwise I don’t think they would have survived to production.

They are definitely niche glass (I think) and I hope Swarovski sell enough of them to at least break even.
 
I think it's definitely "worth it" especially considering you're paying the same price as Swaro's 10x42 NL but getting a 52mm - the 52 NL's are the "sweet spot" in Swaro's lineup now! :) You get more of everything Swaro and for the same price.

it's "worth it", the question is, are they appropriate for you? For day use birding I usually don't like to carry more than a 27-28 ounce binocular, these would be heavier. They'd be perfect for astronomy but the investment isn't quite right for me, given my priorities
 
I wish there was someplace close that I could try a pair
I will listen to feedback
Video I saw there saying the 14 are more for a tripod. Not hand held but they didn’t mention anything if you used the forehead rest on the 14 if it would help
Time will tell
 
I wish there was someplace close that I could try a pair
I will listen to feedback
Video I saw there saying the 14 are more for a tripod. Not hand held but they didn’t mention anything if you used the forehead rest on the 14 if it would help
Time will tell
For some years I owned a Fujinon FMT-SX 16X70, and used it hand-held, for brief periods. I always thought a tripod was more bother than it was worth, and awkward to boot.

It was at its best from a car, rested on a partly-raised window.

I once saw the North America Nebula with it from a dark site in Maine, before the fog came in. It would resolve Mizar.
 
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I wish there was someplace close that I could try a pair
I will listen to feedback
Video I saw there saying the 14 are more for a tripod. Not hand held but they didn’t mention anything if you used the forehead rest on the 14 if it would help
Time will tell
If it isn’t a rude or inappropriate question, where are you?

Someone may be able to help.
 
Agree. The 8x32 and the 12x42 is a good set for me. I've thought about the 8x42 for a wee bit more EP, but...?, 10x52 is intriguing for EP and Mag, but..why ?
 
Agree. The 8x32 and the 12x42 is a good set for me. I've thought about the 8x42 for a wee bit more EP, but...?, 10x52 is intriguing for EP and Mag, but..why ?
The 10x52 NL will be a more comfortable low light binocular to use than the NL 12x42. Bigger EP with easier eye placement, they will be brighter most of the time, especially in low light, have a bigger FOV and better DOF.

I think the NL 10x52 is going to be one awesome binocular. I would try one before I just write it off! Not only that, but I bet you will like it more than the NL 12x42. There is nothing like a big 50mm aperture for comfort and performance. The 50mm is taking in 2x the light the 42mm is. The specifications don't tell the whole story.
 
So it's roughly 1700 vs. 2700 in terms of light gathering, not twice as much but close. I too like the benefits of big aperture. Just try your 8x32's and your 8x42's and you'll get the same effect as going from 10x42 to 10x52.

I love everything about the bigger bino. The views through the 10x56 SLC have blown away any other 10x binocular day or night for me. Unfortunately it's big and heavy and somewhat ridiculous to carry around in the field with you :)

But this difference is smaller, I think the 10x42 NL are 30 ounces and these 10x52 are 35.9? That's not bad. Searching for birds after sunset the 50mm+ bino will show everything lit up when it's become dark in the 42's. It depends on the individual bino, but I've found eye placement and tolerance for eye movements within the FOV is better in the larger exit-pupil bino every time. This is main reason I kept the 10x56 SLC over the 10x50 UVHD
 

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