Is it worth to buy the Swarovski curio 7x21 if i already have a Zeiss Victory Pocket 8x25? (1 Viewer)

[SanderBird82]

Ik redeneer als volgt: ik zou het niet rechtvaardigen om beide te hebben. Ze zijn qua grootte, vergroting en helderheid dicht bij elkaar.
8x25 biedt beter houvast, maar is nog steeds niet comfortabel als een middelgrote of grote verrekijker. En past niet in sommige zakken, wat de 7x21 wel doet.
Als ik al 8x25 had en daar tevreden mee zou zijn, zou ik het niet verantwoord vinden om zelfs maar 7x21 te kopen om beide te kunnen houden.
Ik overweeg om de Curio 7x21 aan te schaffen en vind dat het een geweldige aanvulling is op mijn Zeiss SFL 8x30. Dit is een middelgroot model, vrij compact, maar heeft een beter houvast dan elke andere compactcamera met dubbel scharnier.

Maar goed, dat is alleen mijn mening. Als je zowel 7x21 als 8x25 waardeert, waarom niet?

Dont you think 8x25 VP works almost same as a 8x30 SFL?

 

[Swedpat]

Dont you think 8x25 VP works almost same as a 8x30 SFL?

8x30 has 44% brighter image than 8x25 which is not very big but noticeable.
The 8x30 offers better eye relief which is an advantage. It also fills up the hands better which makes it easier to get a steady view.
But the 8x25 fits in smaller pockets which can be an advantage. Pros and cons.

 

[Swedpat]

I think even 8 and 10 power are too close to each other to justify to pay for both alpha', dont you think?

Possibly! Either I would have only a, for example, 8x42 OR a 7x42 and 10x42/50.

I would say it's pretty much the same as with 7x21, 8x25 and 8x30.
If one: 8x25
If two: 7x21 and 8x30.

 

[SanderBird82]

8x30 has 44% brighter image than 8x25 which is not very big but noticeable.
The 8x30 offers better eye relief which is an advantage. It also fills up the hands better which makes it easier to get a steady view.
But the 8x25 fits in smaller pockets which can be an advantage. Pros and cons.

True
good 8x30 is also twice as expensive
SFL for example

 

[ReinierB]

Is it worth to buy the Curio en have them both?

In my opinion: yes!
The 8x25 for a light weight bin, but still comfortable in use.
The 7x21 as a real pocket bin.

I think you should ask your wallet and partner this question. They might say: no.

 

[jan van daalen]

True
good 8x30 is also twice as expensive
SFL for example

Have you ever looked through the Junior 7x28?

 

[SanderBird82]

Have you ever looked through the Junior 7x28?

Never. I dont like the colors. . Is it good?
No dont need a another compact bino. (Already have a Zeiss Victory Pocket 8x25). I need a small pocket like the Curio. I think...

 

[SanderBird82]

In my opinion: yes!
The 8x25 for a light weight bin, but still comfortable in use.
The 7x21 as a real pocket bin.

I think you should ask your wallet and partner this question. They might say: no.

Very true.

I bought NL Pure 8x42 and VP 8x25 both this year. When i talk about the Curio she thinks i am going crazy.

Maybe i better wait for next spring.
And let her getting used to the idea. And show her its not only a obsession, also because i really really like it. 😆

 

[SanderBird82]

My personal opinion is that they are too close. You need to do a very careful comparison side by side to maybe notice a VERY slight difference in brightness.
It's a like comparing magnification between 10 and 11x. It would not be justified to get both a 10x42 and a 11x42.

its not only about the magnification, also different diameter 8x25 and 7x21, the 8x25 is way better for ergonomics, handling and AFOV, and 7x21 is better for pockets, and maybe more stable image i guess. (But maybe too little to hold it stady?)

 

[Trinovid]

its not only about the magnification, also different diameter 8x25 and 7x21, the 8x25 is way better for ergonomics, handling and AFOV, and 7x21 is better for pockets, and maybe more stable image i guess. (But maybe too little to hold it stady?)

There's no doubt that the 8x25 Victory Pocket and 7x21 Curio are totally separate classes and only really appropriate for choosing between if the plan is to have only one binocular.

Nothing is going to make me sell the Curio regardless of how many others I have in the same class, let alone something so much larger and totally inappropriate for direct comparison.

 

[SanderBird82]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and options. I will try the Curio, UV and Trinovid in real life and make a decision.

 

[PatR]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and options. I will try the Curio, UV and Trinovid in real life and make a decision.

I do hope you manage to try them.

They are all lovely bino's and I have/had all three. I still have the Curio, which is for me the finest little bino I have ever used.

 

[ReinierB]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and options. I will try the Curio, UV and Trinovid in real life and make a decision.

The Trinovid is the smallest and lightest. You hardly feel it in your pocket. The Ultravid is better optically.
They are both finicky and the eyecups uncomfortably small for my taste.
The Curio is the most comfortable of the three and that is why I chose for this one. However, it really is my pocket bin. I prefer using 8x25, 8x30, 10x32 etc.

Zeiss victory pocket isn't heavy either. If the weight is your "problem", then I think the Curio isn't the best choice. The weight difference isn't large. If the size is your "problem", then the Curio is a good contender.

 

[SanderBird82]

The Trinovid is the smallest and lightest. You hardly feel it in your pocket. The Ultravid is better optically.
They are both finicky and the eyecups uncomfortably small for my taste.
The Curio is the most comfortable of the three and that is why I chose for this one. However, it really is my pocket bin. I prefer using 8x25, 8x30, 10x32 etc.

Zeiss victory pocket isn't heavy either. If the weight is your "problem", then I think the Curio isn't the best choice. The weight difference isn't large. If the size is your "problem", then the Curio is a good contender.

No, noth the weight is the problem. VP 8x25 is very light. But a bit bulky and vurnible for pocket use

 

[Trinovid]

VP 8x25 is very light. But a bit bulky and vurnible for pocket use

Compared to any actual pocket model, it's not a pocket friendly binocular unless you're a kangaroo.

 

[dorubird]

If I were to choose only one compact binocular, it would be the 8x30/32 format (or to the extreme maybe something 8x25 format). But we you have the possibility of several compact binoculars, then I would choose two:
1 an ultra compact 20/21mm binocular
2 and a compact 30/32mm binocular
in this case I would skip the 8x25 format

 

[SanderBird82]

Compared to any actual pocket model, it's not a pocket friendly binocular unless you're a kangaroo.

I agree. I love the handling, ergonomics, afov, cool en very sharp look. But not a good pocket model.

Thats why i am considering a Curio for that purpose. (But my wife would trow me outsite i guess So..... maybe next year.

 

[SanderBird82]

If I were to choose only one compact binocular, it would be the 8x30/32 format (or to the extreme maybe something 8x25 format). But we you have the possibility of several compact binoculars, then I would choose two:
1 an ultra compact 20/21mm binocular
2 and a compact 30/32mm binocular
in this case I would skip the 8x25 format

But if you have a good 8x42, the. 8x32 is too close i guess (also in costs)

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

SanderBird82,
A test report of the Swarovski Junior is published on hte WEB-site of House of Outdoor. The Junior is good for its price level despite some deliberate limitations.
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[SanderBird82]

SanderBird82,
A test report of the Swarovski Junior is published on hte WEB-site of House of Outdoor. The Junior is good for its price level despite some deliberate limitations.
Gijs van Ginkel

Thanks,

But i guess i don't need another compact binoculair. The VP 8x25 is good for that.
I am considering a small pocket size binocular. 7x21 or 8x20