Is this a Barbary Dove? Or normal Collared Dove? (1 Viewer)

[wolfbirder]

In Tenerife in March, I saw this bird which looked different to standard Collared Doves, but I am not sure what a Barbary Dove really looks like. Meant to be pale-whitish almost. Most of the ones I have seen are like the attached (excuse poor photo) - a sort of creamy-brown all over including wings which are normally blackish in Collared Dove.

Thoughts?

 

[Butty]

Collared doves vary a bit. Looks pretty normal.

 

[Brian J Small]

This article is very helpful in giving clues to separating Eurasian Collared and African Collared (Barbary) Doves.

https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/nab/v041n05/p01371-p01380.pdf

In the field the best is the pattern of the outer rectrices as well as voice.

ACD is very over recorded in the Canary Islands as most go on subjective characters.

Brian

 

[wolfbirder]

This article is very helpful in giving clues to separating Eurasian Collared and African Collared (Barbary) Doves.

https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/nab/v041n05/p01371-p01380.pdf

In the field the best is the pattern of the outer rectrices as well as voice.

ACD is very over recorded in the Canary Islands as most go on subjective characters.

Brian

Thank you very much Brian. Very much appreciated.

 

[Brian J Small]

Further to this, if you go to ebird you can check a number of photos submitted as African Collared Dove (such as the one below), which is clearly Eurasian.

ML428439371 - Eurasian Collared-Dove - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML428439371; © Christoph Moning; Gran Canaria, Canarias, Spain

macaulaylibrary.org

...and this

ML187211901 - African Collared-Dove - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML187211901; © William Stephens; Gran Canaria, Canarias, Spain

macaulaylibrary.org

Compare with this, which is properly identified as African

ML428439081 - African Collared-Dove - Macaulay Library

Macaulay Library ML428439081; © Christoph Moning; Tenerife, Canarias, Spain

macaulaylibrary.org

Note also the longer pp projection on Eurasian - 5 or 6 compared with 4 on African .

Brian

 

[wolfbirder]

Blimey, interesting stuff.

I dare say most people don't pay them much attention or care.

Thanks again for the education Brian.