timeshadowed
Time is a Shadow
I can't play mp3 files on my old 'puter, so could someone paraphrase what Bobby has said.
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TimeShadowed
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TimeShadowed
MMinNY said:
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It's a bit long to paraphrase, but he discusses some interesting habitat issues (suggesting that nests are likely to be found in hardwoods near but not in the swamp). He also talks about some of his search methods. He then describes the video, which is quite brief but sounds quite convincing.
He notes the very rapid wingbeat rate, approximately 10 beats per second. He also states that the white trailing edge is clearly visible, as are the white secondaries and black back. The bird flies through the frame twice, 33 seconds apart and was apparently attracted by a decoy.
He notes the very rapid wingbeat rate, approximately 10 beats per second. He also states that the white trailing edge is clearly visible, as are the white secondaries and black back. The bird flies through the frame twice, 33 seconds apart and was apparently attracted by a decoy.
timeshadowed said:
fangsheath
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Unfortunately I screwed up yesterday and went to the wrong place, so I was not able to catch Bobby's presentation in McAllen. I have still not seen the video.
fangsheath
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I am merely guessing that he typically shows the video during his presentations, since he has been known to do so in the past. To my knowledge he has no plans to post it on the internet or offer it for sale.
Camp Ephilus
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MMinNY said:
This is something that I'd like to know more about. I've heard very little about the decoys used in AR. Does anyone have any info on how they are working? I would love to get a couple and put them up on a few trees here with a camera pointed at them. Anyone know who I could contact to see about getting one?
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Curtis Croulet
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Gallagher, speaking in San Diego, talked briefly about the decoys. The only use he specifically described for them was as photography models, to judge the probable visibility of the birds in varying lighting conditions -- i.e., they wanted to get an idea of what they're looking for.
Jesse Gilsdorf
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For those interested in finding the species::
A co searcher in my area has reported that during a week long search that turned up no sitings that he did have a nice occurrance.
While seeing no birds he utilized the butt of his knife to make a double rap sound on an old log. He practiced it and attempted it more than once. At one point no less than 4 birds from different directions responded to his double rap. Further, there were responses to more than one of his rapping attempts.
While none were seen I know of no other birds that make double raps and there certainly were no hunters or other people reasonably expected to be in this area.
A co searcher in my area has reported that during a week long search that turned up no sitings that he did have a nice occurrance.
While seeing no birds he utilized the butt of his knife to make a double rap sound on an old log. He practiced it and attempted it more than once. At one point no less than 4 birds from different directions responded to his double rap. Further, there were responses to more than one of his rapping attempts.
While none were seen I know of no other birds that make double raps and there certainly were no hunters or other people reasonably expected to be in this area.
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Camp Ephilus said:
Here's a photo of one with its creator. Looks like a good summer project.
http://www.ivory-bill-woodpecker.com/ivory-bill-photos-3.htm
Camp Ephilus
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grousemt said:
Thanks for the link! Now I just need to learn how to carve decoys...lol Or maybe find a sympathetic duck hunter around here... :'D
choupique1
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Curtis Croulet said:
They were used in hopes of luring IBWOs... they DID lure Red Tailed Hawks and Crows......
and Camp Ephilus... duck hunters don't have IBWO dekes....
fangsheath
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My understanding is that decoys have been used sparingly in the official search, as have playbacks, due to concerns about disturbing the birds. Mike Collins has been very reluctant to use playbacks for the same reason.
I thought this was a pretty interesting article from May of last year. It describes a 1981 sighting in the Atchafalaya. One of the people involved is a biologist; he was reluctant to talk about the sighting prior to the Arkansas rediscovery.
http://www.theind.com/roadscholar2.asp?CID=1360121796
http://www.theind.com/roadscholar2.asp?CID=1360121796
fangsheath
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I have met Tommy, he is not just a birder but a good scientist. As with some of the Arkansas searchers, he was no doubt reluctant to accept the evidence of his own eyes, because the bird was "extinct."
Camp Ephilus
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choupique1 said:
Choupique,
You're right that the DH's don't have IB dekes laying around, but I might be able to find one who would be willing to carve me one.
When I duck hunted as a young girl, I loved looking at all the hand carved decoys the old timers would bring. I reckon there are a few carvers left around here.
Jesse Gilsdorf
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I have found a carver willing to take on the task. He is pricing both cork and wood decoys. I doubt that there would be much difference except in weight and cost. He's a taxidermist by trade.
By the way, if a decoy is luring in birds the birds must be familiar with the decoy? Most birds I've seen shun things with which they are not familiar. Crows apparently have it in for IBW, and red tails? Maybe they want a meal?
By the way, if a decoy is luring in birds the birds must be familiar with the decoy? Most birds I've seen shun things with which they are not familiar. Crows apparently have it in for IBW, and red tails? Maybe they want a meal?
Jesse Gilsdorf
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BTW There would have to be an easier meal than an adult IBW. The claws are monsters and the bill aint to friendly neither.
