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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ranburr" data-source="post: 253794" data-attributes="member: 15377">iambirding, I am not attempting to make anything personal.  I meant it in a jovial manner.  But I still could not disagree with you more.  In my experience, Kahles exceeds the performance of the Pentax SPs.  I like the Pentax, but they do not offer the ruggedness or low-light capabilities of the Kahles.  I would also suggest that you steer clear of any NY or NJ based camera shops that are selling optics.  The BBB complaints against most of these stores would use up all of your hard drive space.  The best that you can hope for is a gray market product.  ranburr</blockquote>