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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CerambyX" data-source="post: 3481695" data-attributes="member: 50663">I agree that sure this case is not a good press for local birders etc., but if that's the main concern (and not the well being of the bird) than I feel that probably those who put out the news (not the original finder - so there is no element of boasting etc. on his part, he's too old-school for that) should also receive some criticism. I understand that it might sound a bit backwards, but the deed was done and to be fair - nothing was to be gained by writing that it was 'killed/obtained'. The original finder would get his share of criticism for his actions either way because as I said - our local guys were not happy with this even before news hit the international stage. I believe that in every birding/ornithological community there are things that for different reasons never leave 'inner circles' out to the public. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as said communities have strong moral compass, don't encourage any unethical behavior etc.Actually I'm rather gutted for my own personal reasons because I unbeknownst to the original finder actually was in that general area that fateful day! So close to one of my dream birds but in the same time - so far away... Hopefully better luck (both for me and next Rubythroat found in Latvia) next time!</blockquote>