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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janis Kuze" data-source="post: 3482161" data-attributes="member: 140179">Yes, I see the reason for you being sceptical. The problem is that person who released the information first was rather uncritical about the facts. There were wrong accents made – the fact that bird was collected for the museum (and using of dead specimen for such purpose is perfectly ok, I believe) was put in the first place while proper explanation of death cause was not provided. Juris Lipsbergs is an elder man who is not using internet nor social media and who is not communicating his observations as birder community is used to do. When I met him yesterday he was really shocked about the interpretation of this observation and the conclusions made. All this mess is unbelievably unfair to this man who devoted his life to bird conservation in Latvia.</blockquote>