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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Acanthis" data-source="post: 3464421" data-attributes="member: 5750">Much obliged Laurent. :t:So three main clades:1) a woodland or forest clade - Sylvia s.s. with or including Pseudoalcippe, Horizorhinus, Lioptilus, Parophasma, Epilais?2) Curruca - a woodland/scrub clade consisting of the Orpheans & Lesser Whitethroats plus Parisoma s.s.3) Melizophilus - a collection of little scrub sprites.But then there's Barred Warbler and the two desert warblers, species that don't seem to fit in comfortably with any of the above.Now making use of many of these new genera in my personal list. Evidence of large genetic distances has helped.For some reason I've had psychological difficulty divvying up this genus while had great enthusiasm for the destruction of other long established genera.Hate having these kinds of inflexible psychological barrier - maybe I'm just getting old <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>