Latest IOC diary updates (3 Viewers)

[Andy Adcock]

May 16 Completely update and revise the sequence and taxonomy of Thraupidae.

May 16 Accept synonymization of Picumnus fulvescens with Picumnus limae.

May 15 Revise subspecies of Red-tailed Black Cockatoo following Ewart et al. 2020.

May 14. Revise genus of Buff-spotted Woodpecker and Brown-eared Woodpecker from Campethera to Pardipicus.

May 14. Split Fine-banded Woodpecker (Campethera taeniolaema, including hausburgi) from Tullberg’s Woodpecker (C. tullbergi).

 

[Paul Clapham]

May 16 Completely update and revise the sequence and taxonomy of Thraupidae.

IOC at present has 383 species of Thraupidae. The word "Completely" implies that we aren't going to recognize the family once they get through with it. Yikes.

 

[njlarsen]

IOC at present has 383 species of Thraupidae. The word "Completely" implies that we aren't going to recognize the family once they get through with it. Yikes.

I hope a different reading is possible: complete because they feel this time they got the order right. (as opposed to having made gradual improvements they did know were not the end of the road).

Niels

 

[Mysticete]

I would imagine revision of Thraupidae will focus on all the various recent SACC checklist proposals. It will be recognizable, unless of course you haven't followed anything at all dealing with there taxonomy in the last 20 years.

Hopefully they can take on the New World Sparrows next, as much of the genus level taxonomy is out of date last I checked.

 

[Andy Adcock]

I would imagine revision of Thraupidae will focus on all the various recent SACC checklist proposals. It will be recognizable, unless of course you haven't followed anything at all dealing with there taxonomy in the last 20 years.

Hopefully they can take on the New World Sparrows next, as much of the genus level taxonomy is out of date last I checked.

I assume that some of the really widespread stuff like Blue-grey and Palm Tanager might get split?

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

May 16 Completely update and revise the sequence and taxonomy of Thraupidae.

There are more details on the revision here:

https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/taxonomy/

 

[Mysticete]

I assume that some of the really widespread stuff like Blue-grey and Palm Tanager might get split?

I would guess the vast majority are genera level shifts, as that is where the vast majority of shifts in classification of Tanager have centered in the last few years. Most of the traditional genera recognized are paraphyletic or polyphyletic. Also moving some things in and out of different families, although I think IOC has been working on this.

I never read that brief blurb on the IOC website as meaning anything other than genera getting resorted.

 

[opisska]

There are more details on the revision here:

https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/taxonomy/

Gaaah, this is the one thing I hate about IOC - this table! I never seem to be able to figure out what's happening.

Can someone tell me in plain English whether there are splits and if yes then from what previous species?

 

[TomDerutter]

There are no splits or lumps in the Tanagers - it's all genera changes
(and 1 english name change: Change English name from Cabanis’s Tanager to Azure-rumped Tanager following NACC.)

 

[opisska]

There are no splits or lumps in the Tanagers - it's all genera changes
(and 1 english name change: Change English name from Cabanis’s Tanager to Azure-rumped Tanager following NACC.)

Okay then, nothing to see for me here

As far as I am concerned, they should be ordered by the RGB hex value of their average color

Although seeing Hemispingus no longer exist in Latin, while being the English name of a large number of Tanagers is a bit funny!

 

[viator]

Gaaah, this is the one thing I hate about IOC - this table! I never seem to be able to figure out what's happening.

Can someone tell me in plain English whether there are splits and if yes then from what previous species?

Pretty damn easy if you look at https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/proposed-splits/

or

https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/update-diary/

No one is forcing you to look at the taxonomy table!

 

[opisska]

Pretty damn easy if you look at https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/proposed-splits/

or

https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/update-diary/

No one is forcing you to look at the taxonomy table!

Ha! First of all I had the tables mixed up. Second, they changed the split one finally! There used to be a field something like "comes after" which didn't really say much if you were not looking at the whole spreadsheet, but now there is "parent species" and that's absolutely what was needed! Now I am happy with following IOC

Also: wow, there is a new WP Scrub Warbler species in the works

 

[l_raty]

No one is forcing you to look at the taxonomy table!

The taxonomy table would be vastly more readable if its width was not set to "119.559%"... (This makes it impossible to have the left-most and right-most columns visible simultaneously in a browser window.)

 

[Paul Clapham]

I never read that brief blurb on the IOC website as meaning anything other than genera getting resorted.

Definitely not the split into 14 new families that I heard rumoured recently, then.

 

[Andy Adcock]

There are no splits or lumps in the Tanagers - it's all genera changes
(and 1 english name change: Change English name from Cabanis’s Tanager to Azure-rumped Tanager following NACC.)

Why have they changed that?

 

[Andy Adcock]

Gaaah, this is the one thing I hate about IOC - this table! I never seem to be able to figure out what's happening.

Can someone tell me in plain English whether there are splits and if yes then from what previous species?

It's pretty simple regarding splits, if you just use the diary page.

https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/update-diary/

 

[Mysticete]

Definitely not the split into 14 new families that I heard rumoured recently, then.

The major family level changes have already been completed. Sounds like you are getting subfamilies mixed up with families, as there was a recent paper which reorganized tanagers and named ~15 different subfamilies (although I think some of these already existed).

 

[Frank Gill]

The taxonomy table would be vastly more readable if its width was not set to "119.559%"... (This makes it impossible to have the left-most and right-most columns visible simultaneously in a browser window.)

Fixed, I think

 

[l_raty]

Fixed, I think

Yes -- much better now, thanks :t:

 

[Paul Clapham]

Sounds like you are getting subfamilies mixed up with families, as there was a recent paper which reorganized tanagers and named ~15 different subfamilies (although I think some of these already existed).

Yeah, probably the monger of the rumour I heard wasn't being too precise.