Latest IOC Diary Updates (5 Viewers)

[Mysticete]

🙄🙄🙄🙄

Better to hold off in this case rather than have to move it back later, or potentially raise it to family level

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Better to hold off in this case rather than have to move it back later, or potentially raise it to family level

It forces me to re-re-re-edit my lists 🤣🤣

 

[Acanthis]

It forces me to re-re-re-edit my lists 🤣🤣

Got the lynx book now. They seem pretty certain.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

They seem pretty certain.

On what ?

 

[Acanthis]

On what ?

When I get a moment I'll post on it. But elsewhere.
Don't want to upset the update watchers😉

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

When I get a moment I'll post on it. But elsewhere.
Don't want to upset the update watchers😉

Tell me in PM 🤷

 

[Mysticete]

That's why I don't make any chances until the update is officially released

 

[Acanthis]

Regarding Andy's comment. Is it possible for a moderator to remove part of a thread to another thread?
I'm thinking all the useful "Xolmiini" stuff could be shifted to the Xolmiini thread, or perhaps both placed in the Tyrannides thread.

Can we make that happen?

Yes it is, and she did!
Thanks Delia👍

 

[jts1882]

Got the lynx book now. They seem pretty certain.

In the book they might be, but it seems they may need to reevaluate the conclusion. It's not based on Oliveros et al and not part of their supermatrix.

Laurent,

Turns out that Carpospiza isn't actually included in their supermatrix in Appendix 2. But it is treated in their main text as we've discussed. Jon has also just confirmed to me that the reference to Oliveros et al. is in error. He's checking with his co-authors regarding all of this. I'll provide follow up when I hear back from him.

David

 

[Acanthis]

In the book they might be, but it seems they may need to reevaluate the conclusion. It's not based on Oliveros et al and not part of their supermatrix.

Indeed, just waiting now to hear back from Jon through David.

 

[Andy Adcock]

June 26 Split Small Crow Corvus samarensis (including sierramadrensis) from Slender-billed Crow.

June 26 Accept split of Calabarzon Babbler Sterrhoptilus affinis from Visayan (Black-capped) Babbler Sterrhoptilus nigrocapitatus.

June 26 Accept multiple splits of Rufous Antpitta complex.

This should be Black-crowned.

 

[dnsallen]

This should be Black-crowned.

We now have Visayan (smallish) Babbler, Visayan Pygmy Babbler and Visayan Miniature Babbler all on the same island. One for each bear

 

[DDonsker]

This should be Black-crowned.

Fixed. Thanks.

 

[viator]

June 29 Move the "blue-hooded" euphonias from Euphonia to Chlorophonia.

June 29 Recognize the genera Padda and Mayrimunia for four species of Estrildid finches formerly attributed to Lonchura.

June 29 Revise linear sequence of Family Regulidae.

June 29 Change genera of Jamaican Owl, Flammulated Flycatcher, Ruby-crowned Kinglet, and Five-striped Sparrow.

June 29 Split extinct St. Kitts Bullfinch from Puerto Rican Bullfinch.

June 29 Split West Mexican Euphonia from Scrub Euphonia.

June 29 Split Chestnut-capped Warbler from Rufous-capped Warbler.

June 29 Split White-browed Gnatcatcher from Tropical Gnatcatcher.

June 29 Split Bahama Nuthatch from Brown-headed Nuthatch.

June 29 Split Short-billed Gull Larus brachyrhynchus from Common Gull (L. canus) Change English name of L. canus from Mew Gull to Common Gull.

June 27 Revise the generic classification of the family Phalacrocoracidae.

 

[Mysticete]

Hey, I finally get a new bird from an IOC update (Common and Short-billed Gull)

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

One more split - this is one I've seen all 3

Apr 20 Post proposed splits of Malayan Black-capped Babbler Pellorneum nigrocapitatum and Bornean Black-capped Babbler P. capistratoides from Javan Black-capped (Rufous-browed) Babbler P. capistratum. English names under discussion.

nigrocapitatum has been split from capistratum but placed in Trichastoma instead of Pellorneum. Is it the same for capistratoides ?

 

[exilipes]

June 29 Move the "blue-hooded" euphonias from Euphonia to Chlorophonia.

June 29 Recognize the genera Padda and Mayrimunia for four species of Estrildid finches formerly attributed to Lonchura.

June 29 Revise linear sequence of Family Regulidae.

June 29 Change genera of Jamaican Owl, Flammulated Flycatcher, Ruby-crowned Kinglet, and Five-striped Sparrow.

June 29 Split extinct St. Kitts Bullfinch from Puerto Rican Bullfinch.

June 29 Split West Mexican Euphonia from Scrub Euphonia.

June 29 Split Chestnut-capped Warbler from Rufous-capped Warbler.

June 29 Split White-browed Gnatcatcher from Tropical Gnatcatcher.

June 29 Split Bahama Nuthatch from Brown-headed Nuthatch.

June 29 Split Short-billed Gull Larus brachyrhynchus from Common Gull (L. canus) Change English name of L. canus from Mew Gull to Common Gull.

June 27 Revise the generic classification of the family Phalacrocoracidae.

So this follows the recent North American decisions, with the exception of lumping Andean Duck with Ruddy Duck (?)

 

[Joseph Anthony]

June 22 Move Pale Rockfinch from Passeridae to Motacillidae.

June 27 Restore Pale Rockfinch to Passeridae pending further clarification of its phylogenetic status.

Pale Rockfinch was a member of Motacilidae for fives days. Not very consistent.

 

[Jacana]

It's transparent. The updates don't become "official" until the new version of the checklist is published. It's nice to be able to see the thought processes behind the decisions.

 

[Mysticete]

It's transparent. The updates don't become "official" until the new version of the checklist is published. It's nice to be able to see the thought processes behind the decisions.

and it also shows they are willing to listen to the community, since that reversal was at least somewhat in response to comments here.