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Can someone tell me what the Leica BL, BN, etc. designations mean? Are these older models? If so, what are the new designations (if there are new designations).
Thank you.
Mark
Thank you.
Mark
My wife has Trinovid HD 8x32 and I have pre-HD Trinovid 8x42. I also have a Kowa Genesis 8x33, because my 8x42 Trinovid has no close focus at all . The little Trinovid HD 8x32 weighs 650 g, but it feels in hands of ~same weight as the Kowa (590 g). It feels substantially lighter than the Trinovid 8x42.Leica zee best ! Love the Ultravids especially. I use only a Nikon HG right now but have been thinking lately I want to go back to Leica again. I just have to decide what to buy.
Does anyone here use and enjoy the Trinovid HD 8x32?
Its relatively narrow fov and small IPD range give me some pause.
There are others that will answer more precisely, but essentially the BA, and later the BN models are on the larger binoculars and stands for (if I remember correctly) Brille, which stands for something like glasses? and A for Armoured, later changed to N for Near focus capability. The BR and BL are Ultravid designations with the R standing for Rubber covering and L for the Leatherette covering.Can someone tell me what the Leica BL, BN, etc. designations mean? Are these older models? If so, what are the new designations (if there are new designations).
no need for apology. Your post is very helpful. thanks for all the info !OK, I got it off my chest, I apologize for ranting on. What I really want to say is that Trinovid 8x32 HD is an enjoyable binocular to use despite some of "technical shortcomings" when compared to some other brands and it probably did not receive all the praise it deserves. With other brands you may get a larger FOV and lower weight (Zeiss SFL comes to mind, even though it is more expensive), but you don't get that "Leica look".
Thank you.There are others that will answer more precisely, but essentially the BA, and later the BN models are on the larger binoculars and stands for (if I remember correctly) Brille, which stands for something like glasses? and A for Armoured, later changed to N for Near focus capability. The BR and BL are Ultravid designations with the R standing for Rubber covering and L for the Leatherette covering.
It does, but Leica sadly comes a poor third or fourth in the 'alpha' scope hierarchy too. The old 77 & 62 Televids were superb and good samples can still pretty much hold their own against todays frontrunners.Am I alone in preferring the black armour over the green editions?
I've never owned a Leica, but if I do treat myself, it might be an Ultravid 10x25 (that's if the Zeiss Victory Pocket doesn't suit me better).
I'm also curious to see if the excellent physical quality of their binos translates to the Televid scopes.
It does, but Leica sadly comes a poor third or fourth in the 'alpha' scope hierarchy too. The old 77 & 62 Televids were superb and good samples can still pretty much hold their own against todays frontrunners.
Yes, they were indeed manufactured by Meopta - to Leica's design, which is what is really what is being discussed in this thread I suppose. I have an APO Televid 62 and wouldn't swap it for anything else I've seen. It's superb with the 26x WW eyepiece and no slouch with the 16-48x zoom either!Were those the ones actually manufactured by Meopta? I have a Meopta MeoStar S2 82 HD with the 30-60x WA constant 66º AFOV eyepiece and am very happy with it.
That's interesting. Can you say a bit more about why the new APO Televids (82) don't stand up to the old models, let alone the new alpha competition, e.g., Swaro ATX, Zeiss Harpia?It does, but Leica sadly comes a poor third or fourth in the 'alpha' scope hierarchy too. The old 77 & 62 Televids were superb and good samples can still pretty much hold their own against todays frontrunners.
RB
Zeiss certainly isn't about pure function; they actually hired an outside firm to design the HT and SF exteriors which naturally wound up full of pointless overwrought details. (I don't know whether that was also true of the weird Design Selection models of the 1990s where one could hardly operate the focuser, does anyone?) So I suppose taste is one thing, design another...my main point was Leica as a company seems to put a greater emphasis on style and industrial design than their counterparts. Swarovski does well in that regard, but the others seem to stick with total function, let the looks follow.
I have little experience of the newer Leica Televids I'm afraid, so I can't really answer from personal experience. On the occasion that I have used one (82mm), I have found nothing at all wrong with them. If you run a search on the forum, I'm sure you'll find reasons why others don't rate them very highly. Much of it is more about fashion and what's in vogue at the moment than optical performance, I suspect. The wide angle zoom on the Televids is an excellent, well-designed bit of kit IMHO and the scopes are very compact and feel very robust. FWIW, when I bought my APO Televid 62 back in 2004, I tested it exhaustively against the equivalent Swarovski (65mm) at the time and the Leica came out tops for me by some margin and I'm a Swarovski binocular user.That's interesting. Can you say a bit more about why the new APO Televids (82) don't stand up to the old models, let alone the new alpha competition, e.g., Swaro ATX, Zeiss Harpia?
Thanks!
Thanks for the note!I have little experience of the newer Leica Televids I'm afraid...
Does anyone know whether they're still made by Meopta? (Scope body at least; surely Leica makes the highly regarded wide zoom eyepiece themselves.) I would think some people might still prefer a classic coarse/fine zoom to the now trendy single collar.The wide angle zoom on the Televids is an excellent, well-designed bit of kit IMHO and the scopes are very compact and feel very robust.