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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alexis Powell" data-source="post: 721491" data-attributes="member: 5327">The Leica 10x25 Ultravid is quite a bit better optically than ALL its competition, and is vastly superior to the Zeiss 10x25 Victory (I don't make such proclammations about the premium 2/3 and full-sized binos, where I think each model has its strengths and weaknesses and where there is thus more room for meeting different user preferences).  I don't find the Zeiss 10x25 Victory optically impressive, even compared to its 8x20 Victory sibling.  I like the 8x20 Victory quite a bit, but the 8x20 Ultravid is much superior in use because it has such a bright, contrasty image.  Although I've had more opportunity to compare the 8x20 models of these binos (since I own both), I've spent some time with both 10x Victories and Ultravids, and have noted that like their 8x sibling, the Victories have serious problems with backlighting/flare, both when looking against direct light and against bright overcast skies.  Really, the difference between the Ultravid and Victory in these situations (which commonly occur when birding!) is amazing, the Ultravid being vastly superior.  Although you said you didn't care so much about ergonomics, the 10x25 Ultravids are outstanding if not the best in this respect.  They also focus closer than other premium 10x25 roofs.--AP</blockquote>