I've used a Trinovid 8x20 for decades and upgraded it to the Ultravid. They are very nice but each time I was sure I would be using a bino, I took my 8x32 because the general comfort and field of view were so much better.Hello,
My questions is if the Leica Pocket model, one Trino/Ultravid 8x20-10x25 can be a good all purpose binocular in tiny formar, a really pocket binocular but with a good usability optical and mechanical.
Yes, it can - unless you rate the advantages of a large exit pupil and a wide field of view higher than compactness. Optical and mechanical quality is great. I can second what Mono and Dipperdapper say about the Leicas. There are some drawbacks, though. See Eitan's post #6.Hello,
My questions is if the Leica Pocket model, one Trino/Ultravid 8x20-10x25 can be a good all purpose binocular in tiny formar, a really pocket binocular but with a good usability optical and mechanical.
Best,
I think it just depends on your preference and what you want from a binocular. The 8x is a bit smaller, but the 10x (particularly the BCA) is still extremely compact. Given that the exit pupil is the same in both I think the advantages of greater detail retrieval (which is what I generally use binoculars for - most of the time I couldn't care less about FOV) of the 10x outweigh any advantage of the 8x. And of course these tiny bins can be good all purpose binoculars - just don't expect much if you want to go birdwatching at dusk.......Best the 8x20 than the 10x25 model for multi purpose..?
I respectfully disagree. When I was young and my eyesight was better, I spent several years in a "minimalist" phase, where I did serious birding carrying only a Zeiss Classic 10x25 binocular; no field guide, no electronics, no scope, nothing else. It did require some effort and practice to get to where I could use that little bino effectively, but one of the benefits I discovered was that the limitations of my equipment meant I had to become more alert and more aware of my surroundings; I had to become a better observer. I became a better birder because of, not in spite of, the limitations of my equipment. It was great fun, and I highly recommend this approach to anyone who enjoys a challenge and would like to become a better outdoor observer.No. Not if you are a serious binocular user (vs an occasional “glancer”).
No 8x20 or 10x25 is a going to be a good “one and only” binocular option. The tiny size and 2.5mm exit pupil are too limiting. You can’t do serious birding with finicky eye placement.
I also have the 10x25 Trinovid and prefer that to the 8x20 for its extra magnification in such a small package, but I don’t think there is any advantage in the extra 5 mm objective lens because the EP is the same as the 8x20, and that’s what really matters.1. I personally like more 10x25 than 8x20 thanks to 5mm more aperture and 2x more power!
2. But I like 8x20 more than 10x25 thanks to his much more compact shape!
3. I like both! But if I were forced to choose only one I think I would choose Trinovid 10x25 because I am used to using such a small 10x binoculars.
here is a comparison with my trinovids:
The three Trinovids battle
When we refer about the compact Trinovid series we have to refer to exactly which model we are referring to, because they are very different optically due to the improvements of the anti-reflection layers over the years. It's like some old Swarovski models: with or without Swarodur coating. All...www.birdforum.net
Yup, and that's why I have too many binoculars!@CSG, yes, they’re not bright bins, although more than bright enough in good light. A few years ago when I only had the 10x25 Trinovids I bought a Nikon 7x50 marine binocular for use on a boat. I remember the first time that I compared their low light performance. I was using the 10x25‘s one evening as it was getting dark (from land). It got to the point where to the naked eye the trees on the shore across the lake just looked black and I could just about make out some detail with the binoculars. Then I switched to the 7x50’s and suddenly the distant shore looked very light (really) and I could make out all the details of the trees with no problem at all. Much brighter than the view with the naked eye. That’s when I really appreciated what large objectives and large EP’s can do!