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<blockquote data-quote="Themoog" data-source="post: 3522981" data-attributes="member: 140925"><p>He may well have done, memory does not recall.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a subtle masterstroke of almost subliminal marketing by Leica for which they can be duly credited but in no way adds or detracts from what I perceive as the merits of their products. For some perhaps. Either way the Noctivid appears to have brought them up to broad speed with Zeiss and Swarovski at the (very expensive end of ) top technical and mechanical performance. </p><p></p><p>A new open bridge design, better ER and FOV than UV HD+ and all wrapped up in a reasonably compact package and seemingly classic Leica rich tones. A little later to the +18mm ER, +400 ft FOV (8x) party perhaps but there nonetheless and none the worse for it. If you're in the market for such - you choose your idiosyncrasies , pays your money and takes your chances...</p><p></p><p>.....and thats it. </p><p></p><p>No voodoo. </p><p>No kings birthday suit. </p><p></p><p>Nothing any optics lab wouldn't have exploited, pinned down and marketed by now were it possible. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll be delighted to witness this effect and will certainly mention it (along with gulping down a huge portion of humble pie) if/when that comes to pass.</p><p></p><p>Same but no more or less than with rolling ball, overly green filtration, CA, veiling glare, too tight/loose focussing etcetera etcetera all of which seem, almost to a unit, subject to personal experience. </p><p></p><p>On a lighter note : </p><p></p><p>It's as much about delivery platforms as product availability Troubador. We use a lower pressure mix and less tap baffling in our pubs than on the continent. We get effectively, flat, sweet, headless muck. I remember going over this with some Dutch and German guys once. If the lager comes without a nice big foam on the top it's considered stale and undrinkable. Here we complain if there's more than a bubble or two floating around the meniscus.</p><p></p><p>So unless we can get that bit right, it's not as good. There's a place down the road which has Bitburger on tap (which is VERY unusual ime) but it's just not as good. Neither cold enough, crisp enough nor foamy enough. </p><p></p><p>Shame really. Still, one of the joys of travel.</p><p></p><p>All the best</p><p></p><p>Tm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Themoog, post: 3522981, member: 140925"] He may well have done, memory does not recall. It's a subtle masterstroke of almost subliminal marketing by Leica for which they can be duly credited but in no way adds or detracts from what I perceive as the merits of their products. For some perhaps. Either way the Noctivid appears to have brought them up to broad speed with Zeiss and Swarovski at the (very expensive end of ) top technical and mechanical performance. A new open bridge design, better ER and FOV than UV HD+ and all wrapped up in a reasonably compact package and seemingly classic Leica rich tones. A little later to the +18mm ER, +400 ft FOV (8x) party perhaps but there nonetheless and none the worse for it. If you're in the market for such - you choose your idiosyncrasies , pays your money and takes your chances... .....and thats it. No voodoo. No kings birthday suit. Nothing any optics lab wouldn't have exploited, pinned down and marketed by now were it possible. I'll be delighted to witness this effect and will certainly mention it (along with gulping down a huge portion of humble pie) if/when that comes to pass. Same but no more or less than with rolling ball, overly green filtration, CA, veiling glare, too tight/loose focussing etcetera etcetera all of which seem, almost to a unit, subject to personal experience. On a lighter note : It's as much about delivery platforms as product availability Troubador. We use a lower pressure mix and less tap baffling in our pubs than on the continent. We get effectively, flat, sweet, headless muck. I remember going over this with some Dutch and German guys once. If the lager comes without a nice big foam on the top it's considered stale and undrinkable. Here we complain if there's more than a bubble or two floating around the meniscus. So unless we can get that bit right, it's not as good. There's a place down the road which has Bitburger on tap (which is VERY unusual ime) but it's just not as good. Neither cold enough, crisp enough nor foamy enough. Shame really. Still, one of the joys of travel. All the best Tm [/QUOTE]
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