Lesser Violetear? (1 Viewer)

[SAY37]

Taken January 3 in Arenal, Costa Rica.

I think juvenile Lesser Violetear—but want to confirm. Thanks for your help!

 

[arcadillor]

not violetear

 

[SAY37]

Any thoughts? Merlin is giving me Lesser Violetear, Blue-chested Hummingbird or Blue-vented Hummingbird.

 

[arcadillor]

Any thoughts? Merlin is giving me Lesser Violetear, Blue-chested Hummingbird or Blue-vented Hummingbird.

crowned woodnymph for me

 

[THE_FERN]

crowned woodnymph for me

Female violet-headed for me. I disregarded the Woodnymph because: this has the feeling of a very small hummingbird (but size difficult to judge), the bill is straight (would expect Woodnymph to be longer, curved), tail is not clearly forked (squarish), the white tail tips are very small, not marked. It's not clear but I see a white post-occular spot

 

[SAY37]

Thank you guys for your input. Agreed that not Crowned Woodnymph due to lack of bill curvature. But still stumped/not convinced in any real direction. Anyone else have thoughts?

 

[THE_FERN]

Thank you guys for your input. Agreed that not Crowned Woodnymph due to lack of bill curvature. But still stumped/not convinced in any real direction. Anyone else have thoughts?

Clearly you've some reason for rejecting female violet-headed. I note that Vallely and Dyer say that the short straight bill is a key id mark (as here). Of course, the decision is y yours but for me the id is resolved

 

[Andy Adcock]

Clearly you've some reason for rejecting female violet-headed. I note that Vallely and Dyer say that the short straight bill is a key id mark (as here). Of course, the decision is y yours but for me the id is resolved

Wouldn't the post ocular spot be evident, even in this shot as it's a pretty obvious feature in this species, unlike others where less so?

 

[Andy Adcock]

Every image of Violet-headed I have seen, has a very prominent post ocular spot except this one, is it wrongly ID'd or can it be totally absent?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/avesdecostarica/9574600066

This is what I'd expect to see

https://www.hbw.com/ibc/photo/violet-headed-hummingbird-klais-guimeti/female-perched

 

[THE_FERN]

Every image of Violet-headed I have seen, has a very prominent post ocular spot except this one, is it wrongly ID'd or can it be totally absent?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/avesdecostarica/9574600066

This is what I'd expect to see

https://www.hbw.com/ibc/photo/violet-headed-hummingbird-klais-guimeti/female-perched

I see it on the photo although it's not very clear because of angle etc

 

[Andy Adcock]

I see it on the photo although it's not very clear because of angle etc

This is my point, I think it should be clear, even on such a shot.

 

[SAY37]

Agreed with Andy that I think the post ocular spot would be more prominent if violet-headed. I just looked through a number of Blue-chested hummingbird photos — anything I’m missing that clearly rules this out as a possibility?

 

[arcadillor]

Agreed with Andy that I think the post ocular spot would be more prominent if violet-headed. I just looked through a number of Blue-chested hummingbird photos — anything I’m missing that clearly rules this out as a possibility?

I thinked blue chested hummingbird but this species has coppery uppertail covert and central rectrices
so I exclude it