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'Licencing of upland grouse moors and gamekeepers' RESPONSE (1 Viewer)

LowellMills

Is this your Sanderling?
The e-petition 'Licencing of upland grouse moors and gamekeepers.' signed by you recently reached 10,424 signatures and a response has been made to it.

As this e-petition has received more than 10 000 signatures, the relevant Government department have provided the following response: The Government is aware of incidences of illegal killing of birds of prey and Ministers take the issue very seriously. To address this, senior Government and enforcement officers in the UK identified raptor persecution as a national wildlife crime priority. Raptor persecution is subject to a prevention, intelligence, enforcement and reassurance plan led by a senior police officer through the Raptor Persecution Delivery group. The National Wildlife Crime Unit, which is funded by the Government, monitors and gathers intelligence on illegal activities affecting birds of prey and provides assistance to police forces when required. Shooting makes an important contribution to wildlife control and conservation, biodiversity and to the social, economic and environmental well-being of rural areas, where it can provide a supplement to incomes and jobs. The overall environmental and economic impact of game bird shooting is therefore a positive one and it has been estimated by the industry that £250 million per year is spent on management activities that provide benefits for conservation. When carried out in accordance with the law, shooting for sport is a legitimate activity and our position is that people should be free to undertake lawful activities. There are no current plans to restrict sport shooting in England. This Government encourages all shoot managers and owners to ensure they and their staff are following recommended guidelines and best practice to reduce the chances of a conflict of interest with birds of prey. We acknowledge that crimes against birds of prey are abhorrent but it should be noted though that, despite instances of poisoning and killing of birds of prey, populations of many species, such as the peregrine falcon, red kite and buzzard have increased. While a small minority is prepared to kill birds of prey, and where possible these people are brought to justice, this demonstrates that the policies in place to conserve these species are working. This e-petition remains open to signatures and will be considered for debate by the Backbench Business Committee should it pass the 100 000 signature threshold.

Email this morning that went to all signatories. This petition is closed so not sure how 'we' go about reaching the 100,000 mark. Also get a distinct take home message of 'some of our friends own shooting estates, and our policies work just fine' from this. Thoughts? Original petition here:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/46473
 

Farnboro John

Well-known member
Email this morning that went to all signatories. This petition is closed so not sure how 'we' go about reaching the 100,000 mark. Also get a distinct take home message of 'some of our friends own shooting estates, and our policies work just fine' from this. Thoughts? Original petition here:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/46473

I notice they deliberately don't address the question of Hen Harriers despite these being the principal BoP species associated with upland grouse moors. We know that mention of Peregrines, Buzzards and especially Red Kites is an entire school of red herrings designed for consumption by the layman. This is obviously no accident.

Obviously their policies do not work just fine for that species!

In taking this further you will wish to ensure that disingenuousness like that response is not an option for the Establishment, so any new petition and associated correspondence must focus entirely on Hen Harriers.

John
 

Sangahyando

Well-known member
I notice they deliberately don't address the question of Hen Harriers despite these being the principal BoP species associated with upland grouse moors. We know that mention of Peregrines, Buzzards and especially Red Kites is an entire school of red herrings designed for consumption by the layman. This is obviously no accident.
Precisely. The whole letter reads like an exercise in politician speak - talk a lot, say nothing.

They should elaborate on how a licensing process (like the one that was proposed) would curb revenues from shooting in any significant way.
 

Peewit

Once a bird lover ... always a bird lover
Precisely. The whole letter reads like an exercise in politician speak - talk a lot, say nothing.

They should elaborate on how a licensing process (like the one that was proposed) would curb revenues from shooting in any significant way.

I do see anything that has changed at all - considering there is still deaths of BoPs occuring - the latest in Ross-shire only today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26729937

It is like a free for all and do as you please for anyone to do what they like

As John said: Some BoP's are doing well the document fails to address the Hen Harriers have been forgotten about - it does not serve well at all.

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Kathy
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Ben Nevis

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Scotland
Not only Is It the 6 birds In question but had these birds bred with success In the next few months,how many In total have been lost to the area ?

It really Is pathetic.
 

keith

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A pathetic response, but not entirely unexpected, it feels like banging your head against a wall.
 

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