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ambduck5

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Thankfully, not everyone is a twitcher and therefore not desperate for a 'tick'. I guess we all do follow our own rules and that is what makes 'listing' and 'league tables' such a ridiculous pastime. Each to his own I say.
 

JWN Andrewes

Poor Judge of Pasta.
Where does this "desperate for a tick" come from? I mean, if you're a twitcher then yes, you want ticks, but wanting something in not synonymous with desperation. I strongly suspect a straw man has been conjured here but hey, if it gives you someone to feel superior to then knock yourself out
 

Sangahyando

Well-known member
Thankfully, not everyone is a twitcher and therefore not desperate for a 'tick'. I guess we all do follow our own rules and that is what makes 'listing' and 'league tables' such a ridiculous pastime. Each to his own I say.
So now that we've established that you don't watch birds because any of them could have been held by a human at some point, and thus not be "wild" as per your definition, you're also effectively saying that you don't actually keep a life list. So what is the point of this thread?

PS: I'm not a competitive lister nor a particularly enthusiastic twitcher, and I've never heard of "league tables" in this context before.
 

YuShan

Well-known member
Believe it or not, I still "need" a Grashopper Warbler for my lifelist. In have heard several but I don't count "heard only" and yes, I have actually seen one but that was captured in a mist-net so that one also doesn't count for me. Not desperate, but...
 

YuShan

Well-known member
PS: I'm not a competitive lister nor a particularly enthusiastic twitcher, and I've never heard of "league tables" in this context before.

I remember when I heard about "competitive birding" for the first time some years ago. I was like...WTF! For me nature and birding is a way to escape all the competitive shit. It seems there is no escape! :C :-O

That said, I really enjoy keeping a list.
 

Andy Adcock

Well-known member
England
So now that we've established that you don't watch birds because any of them could have been held by a human at some point, and thus not be "wild" as per your definition, you're also effectively saying that you don't actually keep a life list. So what is the point of this thread?

PS: I'm not a competitive lister nor a particularly enthusiastic twitcher, and I've never heard of "league tables" in this context before.

Enjoy...!

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list4&lowVal=0&highVal=49

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list1&lowVal=0&highVal=49

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list17&lowVal=0&highVal=49

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list3&lowVal=0&highVal=49

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list59&lowVal=0&highVal=49

http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?list=list31&lowVal=0&highVal=49
 

temmie

Well-known member
I frankly don't understand why having rules to a list is a problem for some here:

#1 either you comply to the rules in order to compare lists with others, and you would comment about those rules in an objective way (like: these are the rules, and that's it);

#2 either you have your own list with own rules and you wouldn't bother with the rules and this topic and don't comment.

You simply don't come here and complain about some rules that some people obey, if you are one of the guys that have a 'your list your rules' philosophy (#2), because if so, by definition you won't critisize other people's list or rules.

Anyway, I find it a bit odd that the SOP enables you to count birds that have just been released. I still want to see Aquatic warbler in Belgium that is often mist-trapped but hardly ever seen in the field. It would be easy to go to a ringer's station and wait for one to fly in these days (some stations have them almost daily the last week), but that isn't in the spirit of finding birds that are flying free.
Ofcourse having an aquatic warbler in your hands or close in the hand is very joyful and seeing birds released after ringing is a nice experience, but I can enjoy that without having to put that bird on my list. So actually, I would consider those that want to tick it just after release a bit too much focused on their list and not on the joy of birding. But that's their life / rules / choice.
 

SlowLowFlyingTurkey

Well-known member
Thankfully, not everyone is a twitcher and therefore not desperate for a 'tick'. I guess we all do follow our own rules and that is what makes 'listing' and 'league tables' such a ridiculous pastime. Each to his own I say.
Ah, so this thread was just a long-winded way to have a dig at twitchers. Pity you couldn't just say that in your first post. You have an oddly superior attitude for someone who doesn't know the difference between a live bird and a dead one.
 

Andy Adcock

Well-known member
England
I frankly don't understand why having rules to a list is a problem for some here:

#1 either you comply to the rules in order to compare lists with others, and you would comment about those rules in an objective way (like: these are the rules, and that's it);

Exactly so.
 

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