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mb1848

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In part III is Lanius melanoleucus Nobis text and plate 115. It is now listed as :
Edit. I see Valenciennes name is Lanius melanoleucos with -os at end not -us.
 
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l_raty

laurent raty
Valenciennes in 1826 used the same name for the pied shrikes from the Cape of Good Hope? (same taxa?)

Not the same taxon.
Valencienne's bird is from the Cape of Good Hope; has a black back, fairly dark; the entire underparts white; the wings varied with black and white, the tail black, thinly bordered with white. It is the size of "notre pie-grièche d'Italie" which is the Lesser Grey Shrike (see p. 223).
This probably makes it a Common Fiscal ?
Valencienne treats Lanius collaris as an other species on p. 224, though.
 
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Björn Bergenholtz

... also known as "Calalp"
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Valencienne's bird is from the Cape of Good Hope;...
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Valencienne treats Lanius collaris as ...

Laurent, maybe a bit picky (again, sorry), but regarding the blue above ... ;)

His name was/is Valenciennes (just like Mark wrote it), not 'Valencienne', i.e. Achille Valenciennes (1794–1865), whose full name was Leon Achille Valenciennes, Author (auctor) of a many, several generic names.

More details of him here:
"Aide-naturaliste, puis professeur de zoologie au Muséum d'histoire naturelle de Paris. Administrateur du Muséum. Chevalier de la Légion d'honneur (1833).
[...]

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l_raty

laurent raty
Laurent, maybe a bit picky (again, sorry), but regarding the blue above ... ;)
Yes... I thought I had corrected it yesterday, actually :(.
(I did type the correction in, so I guess I must have omitted to hit the "save" button -- there are much less obvious difference between the "edit" mode and the rest in the "new" forum. My deepest apologies to Valenciennes for misspelling his name; but 24 hours have passed, and it's too late to correct it now.)
 
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mb1848

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Thanks Laurent. I should have checked the description of V. Definitely does not describe Magpie Shrike! Perhaps a Madagascar shrike-like bird?
On a different note.
A few pages up from the Gallus bankiva plate is a letter from William H. Lizar brother in law of Jardine to the British Museum explaining some of the problems with this volume.
https://www.google.com/books/editio...thology/57zgwQ6njlYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=bankiva .
There is a paper War and Peace in Natural History Publishing that might explainm why this volume was so hard to find?
https://www.jstor.org/stable/231177?seq=1 .
 

Nutcracker

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India Sporting Review, 1845 (Treron chloropterus Blyth, vol. 2: 28) please!

archive.org have a volume from 1848-9, but I can't find 1845 anywhere.
 

mb1848

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The almost original description is in the 1845 JASB under Treron chloroptera.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123999#page/412/mode/1up .
Possible earlier use of the name in Busch and Lewis 1845.
Page 59 of: https://www.google.com/books/editio..._Islands/cf4RAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Treron .
Not sure what a Hurrial Pigeon is? Blyth may have written the natural history appendix?
Doctor Peterson of Zoonomen quotes a Richmond coopy of the OD.
(quotes " " are Richmond's)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Treron chroloptera "B"
India Sporting Review, II, no.3, Sept., 1845, 28 (in text).

" A fifth Hurryaul, [APP: not completely sure of this word, possibly Hurryanl? ]
of superior dimensions, but otherwise
much resembling the pompadora, has lately been received
by the Museum of the Asiatic Society from the Nicobar
Islands, and is named by the Curator - Treron chloroptera." (full ref.)
Hurryaul, Hurrial is Columba hardwickii Gray.
Blyth published in the Indian Sporting Review anonymously and as Zoophilus and Z. and B.
Zoonomen states
  • "Blyth was the Curator of the Museum of the Asiatic Society of Bengal from ca. 1841-1861"
  • .I say one of the skins in the Museum of the Asiatic Society was a gift from Captain Lewis, tying Blyth to name in Busch & Lewis.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48206#page/269/mode/1up .
 
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Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!
Thanks! I guess the India Sporting Review is a case of a newspaper-type publication having faster publication turn-around so getting in first.

Any idea why IOC change the gender to -pterus?
 

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