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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pete Mella" data-source="post: 1628810" data-attributes="member: 47236">I think 4 is a grey one. If you see a dot in the sky which your mate is adamant is something interesting but you only see a dot in the sky then no (this happened to me at Blacktoft with a bittern once, but it didn't cause much problem because it wasn't a lifer). But if your mate gives an educational "it's a such and such, see the way it's flying and hear that flight call" and those features are noted then as long as your mate is a trustworthy person to believe then possibly.The ticking from photos - if you take a picture of some moorhens and then you get home and notice a blue-winged teal lurking in the background that you had no idea was there at the time then it would be very very annoying but I don't think you can count it - you didn't see (or at least notice) the bird in the field. However if you see a tricksy wader and take a photo, then pore over Collins when you get home to ID it, then that's tickable. The dodgy version is posting a picture in the ID groups on Flickr and then ticking it from that, and even then a confirmation you're right is different from someone naming your birds for you <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />However the fact the Tophill Amur falcon's on my list shows I'm pretty shameless and rather hypocritical, so don't listen to me! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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