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Message: <blockquote data-quote="njlarsen" data-source="post: 1629103" data-attributes="member: 7427">1: I think the Danish guide (netfugl) says something about a bird released within one hour after it is extracted from a net would be tickable, and I think that is a good compromize for a lot of the arguments we have heards2: Only if I could think back to what I saw before it died and make the id at least probable based on that. 3: no4: grey area. I have for example a red-throated pipit on my list that flew over our heads while giving its whistle. I had listened to the sound some days earlier, but I did not id it myself; someone else called out the bird, and the next sound I heard sounded right. Another person said he did see the red throat when it flew over; I only saw enough to say pipit based on the looks. The combination of a sound similar to what I expected and the discussion with others made me feel ok on ticking it. A related thing; you are standing at a migration hotspot, a bird flies by, two different names are called out. You see the bird, you see some field marks, and through the discussion that follows, you will become convinced that the bird was one of the two species, the same as the consensus ends at. Do you tick it? I think most people ends up doing just that, but some of the most purist answers we have heard above sounds like their answer would be no? Have I misunderstood that? cheersNiels</blockquote>