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Message: <blockquote data-quote="adhoc" data-source="post: 3704303" data-attributes="member: 131373">The  Hawke Sapphire 8x25 is close in size and weight to the Leica Ultravid 8x20. It has very good optics, very good specifications, and is available in the UK for GBP 170, in the US for USD 190. There are threads or posts on it in BirdForum.Here is a fine photo I had copied off the internet which shows those two and the Nikon Premier/HG 8x20. I apologize to the photographer and the website for not properly acknowledging its source, which I have omitted to record. I am almost certain it is from BirdForum.Now about the Leica Trinovid pocket model, commented on above. Another difference from the Ultravid pocket is that it is not so waterproof: not inert-gas filled, and not stated by Leica to be submersible in water, unlike the latter, but it is stated to be splash-proof. Also I notice just now from the Leica website that it has recently been given a sleeker look.[Edit-]- Hawke Sapphire pocket. As remarked in the post below, it can have QC problems.- Leica Trinovid pocket. I have had another look at the website and now am not sure about a new look! After clicking on <a href="https://en.leica-camera.com/Sport-Optics/Leica-Lifestyle-Leisure/Compact-Field-Optics/Leica-Trinovid-BCA/A-ROUGH-DIAMOND" target="_blank">this link</a> click on the photo on that page to enlarge it.</blockquote>