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Lophotibis cristata urschi Lavauden, 1929 (1 Viewer)

Taphrospilus

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Lophotibis cristata urschi Lavauden, 1929 OD here

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds claims:
Madagascar Ibis ssp. Lophotibis cristata urschi Lavauden, 1929
Eugène Ursch (1882–1962) was a French botanist and orchid collector on Madagascar, Director of the Zoological and Botanical Gardens at Tsimbazaza.

The Key to Scientific Names
Eugène Ursch (1882-1962) French botanist, orchid collector on Madagascar (subsp. Lophotibis cristata).

Found as well the plant:
Angraecum urschianum
Species dedicated to Eugène Ursch (1882-1962) former director ofthe botanical and zoological park of Tsimbazaza at Antanarivo.

...and here...
Ursch, Eugène French. b. 1882. d. 1962. Garde forestier (1928); then Inspecteur, Service Forestier, Madagascar; stationed (1930s ?) at Analamazaotra, Madagascar; responsible (1940s?) for the zoo and vivarium, Parc de Tsimbazaza, Antananarivo; Dir. (1956), Botanical Gard., I.R.S.M .; Correspondant (1947) , Muséum (Paris) ; Soc . Amis P.B.Z.T. Ref. Bibliographie (1956-63, p . 144) ; Brummitt & Powell (1992); Collectors (1988)

Is it this guy here Eugène Alphonse Ursch? At least the closest I could find in filae with a birth around 1882. Till now I failed to find where he was born and where he died.
 

l_raty

laurent raty
Is it this guy here Eugène Alphonse Ursch? At least the closest I could find in filae with a birth around 1882. Till now I failed to find where he was born and where he died.

This record is crossed out and marked in the header as cancelled ("annulé") and fake ("état civil d'emprunt")...
 

PScofield

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Eugène Alphonse Ursch (1883-1957)
Birth:Apr 2 1883 Strasbourg
Marriage:Spouse: Marie Victorine GRANDCOLAS Married Jan 16 1911 Gerardmer
Death:July 1 1957 Saint-Die

This is the same guy that Martin found - I admit that this doesn't agree with the document in post #3 but this was on Ancestry, FamilySearch and Myheritage. What could "état civil d'emprunt" mean??


Our guy as Laurent found is

Eugène Xavier URSCH (1882-)

Born Dec 3 1882
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Drusenheim, Bas-Rhin, Grand Est, France

Our guy was made a chevalier in 1936 if that helps.

P
 
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l_raty

laurent raty
He was, in any case, a forester in Alsace-Lorraine before moving to Madagascar, see here ("garde forestier domanial de 4e classe du cadre alsacien-lorrain").
(Alsace-Lorraine was German between 1871 and the end of WW1. The birth records from this period are all in German (in alte Schrift). I don't know if this may have had consequences on the quality of the data in Filae, which is a French website.)

Eugène Alphonse Ursch (1883-1957)
Birth:Apr 2 1883 Strasbourg
Eugen Alfons Ursch, geb. 2 April 1883 in Strasburg: here.
Son of the Zuckerbäcker (= confectioner) Joseph Ursch, and seiner Ehefrau Marie Luise geb. Keusch.
Died in Gérardmer (not St-Dié) on 1 July 1957 (the 'cinquante' is not really readable, but is consistent with the added note dating from 1958).
 
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PScofield

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Sorry Eugène Alphonse was a red herring Laurent. Ursch is an Alsatian name of course. Our man was the son of
Andre Ursch (Day labourer)
1848–1913
Marriage: 10 April 1877 Drusenheim, Bas-Rhin, Grand Est, France
Caroline Lapp
1849–1899

I assume he died in Drusenheim in 1962 (based on what I can see on Filae).
 
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l_raty

laurent raty
I assume he died in Drusenheim in 1962 (based on what I can see on Filae).

I don't think he is on Filae. The only record of a Eugène Ursch who died in Drusenheim that I can see there, is from the INSEE "files of deaths" and concerns a guy born on 8 Apr 1899, who died on 3 Mar 1983. INSEE data start with people who died in 1970 -- they won't have someone who died in 1962.

Did he actually ever come back to France...? I find him presented as the (then current) director of the botanical garden of Tsimbazaza as late as 1961 -- e.g. Mémoires, Adansonia.
 
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mb1848

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His listing in A HISTORICAL RECORD of AUTHORS of CACTUS & SUCCULENT seems to infer he died in Madagascar: "Ursch, Eugène (1882–1962); {Ursch}; French botanist; forester in Mada 1928–56; dir of Bot Garden at Tananarive, Mada 1956~"
 

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