What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
New review items
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
Search forums
Gallery
New media
New comments
Search media
Reviews
New items
Latest content
Latest reviews
Latest questions
Brands
Search reviews
Opus
Birds & Bird Song
Locations
Resources
Contribute
Recent changes
Blogs
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
ZEISS
ZEISS Nature Observation
The Most Important Optical Parameters
Innovative Technologies
Conservation Projects
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is
absolutely FREE
!
Register for an account
to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.
Forums
Birding
Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature
Bird Name Etymology
Lt. Hauth's (Pin-tailed) Parrotfinch ...
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3463005" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p><strong>Russ's and/or Finsch's Wiener's Astrild ... alt. ditto's "Finch"</strong></p><p></p><p>Regarding the German <em>Wiener's Astrild</em> "<em>Pytelia Wieneri</em>" FINSCH (or/and RUSS<strong><span style="color: Blue">?</span></strong><span style="color: blue">*</span>) 1877 (<a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/54572#page/329/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) a k a Wiener's Finch or (in Swedish) <em>wienerastrild</em> [Synonymous to the East African species <em>Pytilia afra </em>GMELIN 1788].</p><p></p><p>In my MS he´s: <strong>August F. Wiener (</strong><strong>fl. 1879</strong>),<em> FSZ</em>, an Austrian-born aviculturist, who bought a few specimens of this bird from a Bird trader in London (the latter claiming them as originating from Australia!) and then supplied Dr. Karl Russ with the Type/s. </p><p></p><p>In 1879 (18th of June) Mr. Wiener himself, personally exhibited some of these, "his own" astrilds on a meeting with the <em>Zoological Society of London</em>. </p><p></p><p>One year later the same Wiener (together with Mr. Blakston and Mr. Swaysland) published the Book <em>The illustrated book of canarie and cage-birds, British and Foreign</em><span style="color: blue">**</span> (1878), <a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/101262#page/7/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, where this bird also had an entry of its own (p.380, <a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/101262#page/466/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>): <u>Note</u> that the latter book claim the OD as "<em>Ægintha Wieneri</em> (Russ)"</p><p></p><p>Thats´s about it, what I´ve got on Mr. August F. Wiener.</p><p></p><p>Björn</p><p></p><p>_____________________________________________________________________</p><p><span style="color: blue">*</span>The Richmond card claim "Finsch" as Author, <a href="http://www.zoonomen.net/cit/RI/SP/Ptil/ptil00849a.jpg" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>.</p><p><span style="color: blue">**</span>This book also incl. unexpected "cage-birds" like; Redstart, Wheatear and Green Woodpecker!</p><p>_____________________________________________________________________</p><p>• <strong>Finsch, Otto </strong>(<strong><span style="color: Blue">and/or </span>Karl Russ </strong><span style="color: blue"><strong>???</strong></span>). 1877. [Wiener's Astrild (<em>Pytelia Wieneri</em>)] Ueber eine anscheinend neue Prachtfinkart. Gefierderte Welt 6 (No.32): 1-2.</p><p>• <strong>Blakston, W. A., W. Swaysland & A.</strong> [<span style="color: blue"><strong>August</strong></span>]<strong> F. Wiener.</strong> 1878. The illustrated book of canaries and cage-birds, British and foreign. Ceassel, Petter, Galpin & Co.. London, Paris & New York.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3463005, member: 113430"] [b]Russ's and/or Finsch's Wiener's Astrild ... alt. ditto's "Finch"[/b] Regarding the German [I]Wiener's Astrild[/I] "[I]Pytelia Wieneri[/I]" FINSCH (or/and RUSS[B][COLOR="Blue"]?[/COLOR][/B][COLOR="blue"]*[/COLOR]) 1877 ([URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/54572#page/329/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]) a k a Wiener's Finch or (in Swedish) [I]wienerastrild[/I] [Synonymous to the East African species [I]Pytilia afra [/I]GMELIN 1788]. In my MS he´s: [B]August F. Wiener ([/B][B]fl. 1879[/B]),[I] FSZ[/I], an Austrian-born aviculturist, who bought a few specimens of this bird from a Bird trader in London (the latter claiming them as originating from Australia!) and then supplied Dr. Karl Russ with the Type/s. In 1879 (18th of June) Mr. Wiener himself, personally exhibited some of these, "his own" astrilds on a meeting with the [I]Zoological Society of London[/I]. One year later the same Wiener (together with Mr. Blakston and Mr. Swaysland) published the Book [I]The illustrated book of canarie and cage-birds, British and Foreign[/I][COLOR="blue"]**[/COLOR] (1878), [URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/101262#page/7/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL], where this bird also had an entry of its own (p.380, [URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/101262#page/466/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]): [U]Note[/U] that the latter book claim the OD as "[I]Ægintha Wieneri[/I] (Russ)" Thats´s about it, what I´ve got on Mr. August F. Wiener. Björn _____________________________________________________________________ [COLOR="blue"]*[/COLOR]The Richmond card claim "Finsch" as Author, [URL="http://www.zoonomen.net/cit/RI/SP/Ptil/ptil00849a.jpg"][U]here[/U][/URL]. [COLOR="blue"]**[/COLOR]This book also incl. unexpected "cage-birds" like; Redstart, Wheatear and Green Woodpecker! _____________________________________________________________________ • [B]Finsch, Otto [/B]([B][COLOR="Blue"]and/or [/COLOR]Karl Russ [/B][COLOR="blue"][B]???[/B][/COLOR]). 1877. [Wiener's Astrild ([I]Pytelia Wieneri[/I])] Ueber eine anscheinend neue Prachtfinkart. Gefierderte Welt 6 (No.32): 1-2. • [B]Blakston, W. A., W. Swaysland & A.[/B] [[COLOR="blue"][B]August[/B][/COLOR]][B] F. Wiener.[/B] 1878. The illustrated book of canaries and cage-birds, British and foreign. Ceassel, Petter, Galpin & Co.. London, Paris & New York. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes...
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Birding
Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature
Bird Name Etymology
Lt. Hauth's (Pin-tailed) Parrotfinch ...
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more...
Top
