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Melanie

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As far as I'm aware, a final list hasn't been published yet, Melanie.

My summary of splits and lumps disclosed on BirdLife's Globally Threatened Bird Forums is attached – although perhaps not all of these will be implemented in the 2014 BirdLife Checklist/IUCN Red List?

But presumably there will be additional (as yet undisclosed) splits/lumps which don't concern threatened or near threatened species.

Oh thank you. According this list (if it will be completely adopted by BLI) we will have the assessments of six newly described extant species (e.g. Bryan's shearwater, Omani Owl, Sira Barbet) in the next IUCN red list.
 

aegithalos

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IUCN and Birdlife are now using the same species codes on their websites. I think this is a case of Birdlife switching to use IUCN identifiers. Examples:

Struthio camelus
http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/45020636/0
http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/species/factsheet/45020636

Struthio molybdophanes
http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/22732795/0
http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/species/factsheet/22732795

The earlier Birdlife identifiers were originally in the range 1-ca 10000, with numbers such as 3xxxx used recently for newly defined taxa (both lumps and splits). Clearly a bird-only numbering, that may now be replaced by the wider IUCN scheme.

The original Birdlife identifiers are still working as parts of URLs to access their webpages, bearing in mind that the Birdlife website seems to still be in transition ...

Keith
 

lewis20126

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I can't tell from these various sources but wonder whether the proportion of bird species in the higher threat categories has increased under with the application of Tobias et al.. As perhaps was innevitable, a high proportion of the "new species" are island endemics, many from Asia and some are possibly extinct.

cheers, alan
 

lewis20126

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I see the split of Ceyx lepidus is here:

Dimorphic Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx margarethae
Moluccan Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx lepidus
Sula Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx wallacii
Buru Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx cajeli
New Guinea Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx solitarius
Manus Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx dispar
New Ireland Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx mulcatus
New Britain Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx sacerdotis
North Solomons Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx meeki
New Georgia Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx collectoris
Guadalcanal Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx nigromaxilla
San Cristobal Dwarf-kingfisher Ceyx gentianus

I thought that had been retracted? - it must be in the book though...

Seeing "all the Kingfishers" is surely now impossible.

cheers, a
 

aegithalos

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The species codes have indeed changed completely. The listing in the final column of the spreadsheet for versions up to and including 6.1 was for "SpcRecID (unique value asigned to each taxonomic entity by BirdLife. Use this to compare year to year changes)". In version 7, it has become "SISRecID (unique value asigned to each taxonomic entity by IUCN/BirdLife. Use this to compare year to year changes)".

They do not provide anyway to relate the old SpcRecID to the new SISRecID, so the alleged ability to compare year to year changes by means of this is limited to years up to and including 6.1, and then 7 onwards. As for describing an identifier as unique, providing it for a specific purpose, and then changing it ...

On the other hand, I have just had email from UPS that my copy of the fat book is on the way from Spain, so in a few days I shall have some pictures to look at while pondering these issues.

Keith
 

DMW

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No one scientist or even small set of scientists is going to possess the knowledge base to assess 9,000 species in any sort of timely fashion.

BirdLife partly address this reality with its Globally Threatened Bird Forums, which are - potentially - an excellent resource. What I do find somewhat disappointing is that the process in place on these forums can be:

make a proposal
ask for comments
receive comments
ignore comments
adopt proposal anyway

Two recent examples are lumping of Javan and Blyth's Frogmouths (into "Horsfield's Frogmouth"), and in doing so ignoring very well-informed comment about vocalisations; and splitting Annobon Scops-owl. In the latter case, the only rationale seems to be "well it really ought to be a separate species, even though all the current evidence indicates it isn't".

The same issue applies to conservation status - see, for example, the forum posts on Rufous-headed Robin, and then try to explain how the revised population estimate was derived (other than, think of a number and add two noughts).
 

Richard Klim

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BirdLife Checklist v7 splits & lumps

Attached is a summary of splits and lumps (as trinomials to provide context). For comparison, splits adopted by IOC are indicated.
 

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dnsallen

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Attached is a summary of splits and lumps (as trinomials to provide context). For comparison, splits adopted by IOC are indicated.

and very handy compared to the Birdlife versions!
So at last we have the English names for the split species , presumably the ones in the printed checklist. I hope some of these names don't have legs. South Philippine Hawk eagle? Mindanao Lowland Scops Owl?
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