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Message: <blockquote data-quote="s. james" data-source="post: 1524428" data-attributes="member: 21133">I like the sound of "eco-systems being recreated". Places like Australia, New Zealand etc. are of course where non-native species can have the worst effect because of the way the species have evolved completely separately.:t: but a lot more could be done re. habitat loss and recreating habitats. On a small scale the NI Countryside Managment Scheme encourages farmers to plant (native!) trees on their land, every time I spy one of these small patches of future habitat it cheers me up. They're not that ugly, they basically just look like ruddies! Not sure about "belonging", bit of a vague concept.:C I don't want to take the thread off on a tangent but this kind of thing really winds me up. As has been said many times environmentalism is in danger of becoming a new religion where if you don't toe the line you're treated like a heretic. Firstly (in terms of science) this guy's studied polar bears for ages so it might be useful to listen to his findings. Secondly (in terms of belief) people should be allowed to believe whatever nonsense they want to believe in. There's no thought police yet.(As an aside... In the paper here there's a feature that interviews local people. There's a question asking something along the lines of "Are you environmentally friendly?" It struck me that maybe 10-20 years ago this question would have been "Are you religious?". The same sort of answers are always given ... "Not really, but I try my best, recycle bottles/go to church once a week", "A wee bit, I could do more" etc. etc.)Ever heard of the phrase "whataboutery"? It's used in NI to describe debates that end up like what you've described above.</blockquote>

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