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<blockquote data-quote="JWN Andrewes" data-source="post: 3270438" data-attributes="member: 7131"><p>Far from being an expert, with just a couple of trips to Kenya under the belt in that part of the world, my first impression was Speke's. With the yellow clearly reaching the top of the base of the bill and the pale eye I found this one of the easier Weavers to ID. Except that doesn't appear to be an option where the photo was taken while the very similar Fox's does.</p><p></p><p>Part of the problem seems to be some photos on line where the identification seems debatable. For instance that in #7 captioned as Vitelline Masked doesn't look to me to have enough black on the forehead, and <em>perhaps</em> too heavily marked scapulars; a case could be made for this being a Speke's. And as Djerf has already said the link in #6 is clearly not a Fox's if taken in Tanzania! Another Speke's for me. In fact, once you start looking with a critical eye it's alarming how many questionably captioned Weavers you come across! (Is this <a href="http://www.johncnyren.com/-/johncnyren/gallery.asp?LID=&photoID=3661616&cat=48601" target="_blank">http://www.johncnyren.com/-/johncnyren/gallery.asp?LID=&photoID=3661616&cat=48601</a> another Speke's masquerading as Tanzania Masked?)</p><p></p><p>I can't see any other option than Fox's, with the disturbing caveat that that is only supposing that the field guides are any more accurate that the online pics!</p><p></p><p>I really hope you get some confirmation from more experienced African hands. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and watch this thread with interest.</p><p></p><p>Good luck</p><p></p><p>James</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JWN Andrewes, post: 3270438, member: 7131"] Far from being an expert, with just a couple of trips to Kenya under the belt in that part of the world, my first impression was Speke's. With the yellow clearly reaching the top of the base of the bill and the pale eye I found this one of the easier Weavers to ID. Except that doesn't appear to be an option where the photo was taken while the very similar Fox's does. Part of the problem seems to be some photos on line where the identification seems debatable. For instance that in #7 captioned as Vitelline Masked doesn't look to me to have enough black on the forehead, and [I]perhaps[/I] too heavily marked scapulars; a case could be made for this being a Speke's. And as Djerf has already said the link in #6 is clearly not a Fox's if taken in Tanzania! Another Speke's for me. In fact, once you start looking with a critical eye it's alarming how many questionably captioned Weavers you come across! (Is this [url]http://www.johncnyren.com/-/johncnyren/gallery.asp?LID=&photoID=3661616&cat=48601[/url] another Speke's masquerading as Tanzania Masked?) I can't see any other option than Fox's, with the disturbing caveat that that is only supposing that the field guides are any more accurate that the online pics! I really hope you get some confirmation from more experienced African hands. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and watch this thread with interest. Good luck James [/QUOTE]
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