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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3653736" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>Let´s have a look at a very obscure bird and the totally unexplained eponym <strong><em>gerinii</em></strong> ... <u>not</u> listed (at least not with that particular spelling) in today's <em>HBW Alive Key</em>, that only gives us:</p><p></p><p>I assume I´m going for the latter bird because it´s a Woodpecker (<em>Centurus</em>/<em>Melanerpes</em>/<em>Picus</em>) I´m looking at, as in:</p><p></p><p>• "<em>Picus gerin<u>ii</u></em>" TEMMINCK 1827 (<a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/109923#page/82/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, in text): </p><p></p><p>This quote above is found in Temminck's entry for PIC SOURCIL BOIR <em>Picus superciliaris </em>(<a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/109923#page/81/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, Plate 433, is on the page before) [= OD of today's West Indian Woodpecker <em>Melanerpes superciliaris</em> TEMMINCK 1827, <span style="color: Blue">attached</span>]. </p><p></p><p>However; Temminck's only reference for the "<em>Picus gerinii</em>" refer to "<em>Picchio vario Indiano — Picus varius Indicus</em>" (<u>not</u> a trinomal, I assume, but simply Latin), Plate 171, in Ge<u>r</u>ini's (alt. Manetti's) <em>Ornithologia methodice digesta atque iconibus aeneis ad vivum illuminatis ornata. Storia naturale degli Uccelli</em>. Florence , vol 2, 1769, (Plate <a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123824#page/197/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, and text, <a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123824#page/58/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>; CLXXI). Plate also <span style="color: blue">attached</span>.</p><p></p><p>Surely we´re (also here) dealing with <em>Marchese</em> <strong>Giovanni Gerini</strong>, whose portrait is found in the first volume (1767, <a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123828#page/13/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>), the collector from whose extensive collection of specimens Manetti worked chiefly. And, if so, what about the "Patrizio/Fiorentino" part?</p><p></p><p>Thereby I assume it commemorates the same guy as in James's other birds/eponyms, as in the first quote above! Surely it ought to be possible to find his birth, him being a Noble, "IL SENAT. E. MARCH. PATRIZIO", and all ... (if you know Italian, that is) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And regarding the Identification of this bird? <strong><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Anyone have an idea?</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Couldn´t this be a very brightly painted version of the debated (and extinct) subspecies Grand Bahama West Indian woodpecker <em>Melanerpes superciliaris </em>"<em>bahamensis</em>" CORY 1892 (today most often incl. in <em>M. s. nyeanus </em>RIDGWAY 1886)? Or either one of the also extinct populations "<em>sanfelipensis</em>" or "<em>florentinoi</em>" ... ? Alt. a completely different <em>Melanerpes</em>/<em>Tripsurus</em>/<em>Centurus</em> Woodpecker? Does the Italian text tell us anything of its origin?</p><p></p><p>However: Enjoy!</p><p></p><p>Björn</p><p><span style="color: White">--</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3653736, member: 113430"] Let´s have a look at a very obscure bird and the totally unexplained eponym [B][I]gerinii[/I][/B] ... [U]not[/U] listed (at least not with that particular spelling) in today's [I]HBW Alive Key[/I], that only gives us: I assume I´m going for the latter bird because it´s a Woodpecker ([I]Centurus[/I]/[I]Melanerpes[/I]/[I]Picus[/I]) I´m looking at, as in: • "[I]Picus gerin[U]ii[/U][/I]" TEMMINCK 1827 ([URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/109923#page/82/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL], in text): This quote above is found in Temminck's entry for PIC SOURCIL BOIR [I]Picus superciliaris [/I]([URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/109923#page/81/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL], Plate 433, is on the page before) [= OD of today's West Indian Woodpecker [I]Melanerpes superciliaris[/I] TEMMINCK 1827, [COLOR="Blue"]attached[/COLOR]]. However; Temminck's only reference for the "[I]Picus gerinii[/I]" refer to "[I]Picchio vario Indiano — Picus varius Indicus[/I]" ([U]not[/U] a trinomal, I assume, but simply Latin), Plate 171, in Ge[U]r[/U]ini's (alt. Manetti's) [I]Ornithologia methodice digesta atque iconibus aeneis ad vivum illuminatis ornata. Storia naturale degli Uccelli[/I]. Florence , vol 2, 1769, (Plate [URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123824#page/197/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL], and text, [URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123824#page/58/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]; CLXXI). Plate also [COLOR="blue"]attached[/COLOR]. Surely we´re (also here) dealing with [I]Marchese[/I] [B]Giovanni Gerini[/B], whose portrait is found in the first volume (1767, [URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/123828#page/13/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]), the collector from whose extensive collection of specimens Manetti worked chiefly. And, if so, what about the "Patrizio/Fiorentino" part? Thereby I assume it commemorates the same guy as in James's other birds/eponyms, as in the first quote above! Surely it ought to be possible to find his birth, him being a Noble, "IL SENAT. E. MARCH. PATRIZIO", and all ... (if you know Italian, that is) ;) And regarding the Identification of this bird? [B][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Anyone have an idea?[/COLOR][/B] Couldn´t this be a very brightly painted version of the debated (and extinct) subspecies Grand Bahama West Indian woodpecker [I]Melanerpes superciliaris [/I]"[I]bahamensis[/I]" CORY 1892 (today most often incl. in [I]M. s. nyeanus [/I]RIDGWAY 1886)? Or either one of the also extinct populations "[I]sanfelipensis[/I]" or "[I]florentinoi[/I]" ... ? Alt. a completely different [I]Melanerpes[/I]/[I]Tripsurus[/I]/[I]Centurus[/I] Woodpecker? Does the Italian text tell us anything of its origin? However: Enjoy! Björn [COLOR="White"]--[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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