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Marsh or willow tit (1 Viewer)

David_

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Germany
Hello,

in field I usually determine marsh or willow by combination of call/song and general jizz. But this one was silent and I had difficulties coming to a definitive ID.
What do you think? Marsh or willow?
Pictures taking on April 8th 2021 at a small pond next to golf course in Düsseldorf, Germany.

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PaulCountyDurham

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United Kingdom
Hello,

in field I usually determine marsh or willow by combination of call/song and general jizz. But this one was silent and I had difficulties coming to a definitive ID.
What do you think? Marsh or willow?
Pictures taking on April 8th 2021 at a small pond next to golf course in Düsseldorf, Germany.

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I'd say marsh tit. Months back I was taking pictures of a lot of marsh tits and to my eye there were slight differences in/between these birds, and I was chasing my tail analysing these differences assuming they could mean willow tit when in fact they were all marsh tits. When I did have a willow tit through my lens, it was obvious the bird was not a marsh tit: no analysing perceived slight differences needed. The willow tit is a not as smart and dapper as the marsh tit, and there is a noticeable difference in shape around the head. 'Looks too smart to be a willow tit to me, and more the shape of a marsh tit.

For comparison purposes, here is a picture of a willow tit taken months back. Leaving bill markings aside, this bird just looks noticeably different to marsh tits.
 

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theexpert

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Romania
A feature that makes marsh tits and willow tits easier to differentiate is this brown line towards the back of the "cheek" visible in marsh tit, while a willow tit would have its entire cheek white (like the one in the image sent by Paul).
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Alexander Stöhr

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Hello David,
your bird has already been identified, I just wanted to add, that the brownish, comma-shaped line across the cheeks, mentioned by theexpert, can clearly be seen in your last picture.
 
ZEISS. Discover the fascinating world of birds, and win a birding trip to Columbia
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