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<blockquote data-quote="Themoog" data-source="post: 3515443" data-attributes="member: 140925"><p>Thanks once again for this knowledge-expanding background Ceasar. Really helpful. You've also clearly got enough breadth of kit to have handled and lived with gear across different manufacturers, models, generations and of course sheer time. Short of doing so myself, unlikely as I'm getting on the bus at quite a long way along it's route so to speak, that knowledge is beyond price.</p><p></p><p>I can't argue with the BLs classiness. In fact I would be tempted to go as far as to say Leica gear probably has, to my personal eye, the edge for aesthetics from the simple perspective of objet d'art. I might have to exclude the new Noctivids from that accolade as whilst I've no doubt the open bridge arrangement is sturdier, perhaps offers more hand holding options and is undoubtably popular at the top tier of binoculars, it detracts from the simple classic lines of the UV and TV lines. They've made a good fist of it perhaps at the expense of bringing the focus arrangment to a more occular weighted position.</p><p></p><p>Even the bulky and knurled BA/BNs in armoured configuration have a certain purposeful aesthetic. Just my uninformed and utterly subjective thoughts of course.</p><p></p><p>There's some interesting stuff out there about the politics of why Leica originally set up their Portugal plant. Much if not all of it speculation no doubt but interetsting to me sitting here.</p><p></p><p>I'm confidenent that no serious maker of binoculars is going to compromise it's reputation by interpreting its exacting designs by using shoddy components or assembly procedures. QC is another matter as we see from the 270 'shocker' thread. It's not that the odd bad piece slips through so much - it's how it's subsequently dealt with. Antsy and snotty service is unacceptable at this level frankly.</p><p></p><p>I'll be trawling the web for information on that parameter of the 'package' although the preponderance of negative stories is always going to be disproportionate as one almost never hears from a satisfied customer in public as much as one hears from a disgruntled one.</p><p>Some of what passes for being 'disgruntled' would test the patience of a saint and the service and retail people have my deepest sympathies in dealing with such buffoons. </p><p></p><p>As I young lad I did some I high value retail. A 'challenge' would be putting it mildly.</p><p></p><p>All the best</p><p></p><p>Tm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Themoog, post: 3515443, member: 140925"] Thanks once again for this knowledge-expanding background Ceasar. Really helpful. You've also clearly got enough breadth of kit to have handled and lived with gear across different manufacturers, models, generations and of course sheer time. Short of doing so myself, unlikely as I'm getting on the bus at quite a long way along it's route so to speak, that knowledge is beyond price. I can't argue with the BLs classiness. In fact I would be tempted to go as far as to say Leica gear probably has, to my personal eye, the edge for aesthetics from the simple perspective of objet d'art. I might have to exclude the new Noctivids from that accolade as whilst I've no doubt the open bridge arrangement is sturdier, perhaps offers more hand holding options and is undoubtably popular at the top tier of binoculars, it detracts from the simple classic lines of the UV and TV lines. They've made a good fist of it perhaps at the expense of bringing the focus arrangment to a more occular weighted position. Even the bulky and knurled BA/BNs in armoured configuration have a certain purposeful aesthetic. Just my uninformed and utterly subjective thoughts of course. There's some interesting stuff out there about the politics of why Leica originally set up their Portugal plant. Much if not all of it speculation no doubt but interetsting to me sitting here. I'm confidenent that no serious maker of binoculars is going to compromise it's reputation by interpreting its exacting designs by using shoddy components or assembly procedures. QC is another matter as we see from the 270 'shocker' thread. It's not that the odd bad piece slips through so much - it's how it's subsequently dealt with. Antsy and snotty service is unacceptable at this level frankly. I'll be trawling the web for information on that parameter of the 'package' although the preponderance of negative stories is always going to be disproportionate as one almost never hears from a satisfied customer in public as much as one hears from a disgruntled one. Some of what passes for being 'disgruntled' would test the patience of a saint and the service and retail people have my deepest sympathies in dealing with such buffoons. As I young lad I did some I high value retail. A 'challenge' would be putting it mildly. All the best Tm [/QUOTE]
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